EO Responds To
Emails 05-10-09
(EMAIL) I would like to say thank you. This website has truly opened my eyes to the Truth of the Bible. I just finished reading the Bible in its entirety. At first a friend challenged me on the OSAS doctrine. Actually I had never heard OSAS specifically mentioned in the baptist church so I was confused about the doctrine. So, when I was asked about it I was defending it and not knowing it. Also, I was using scriptures to support it. So, I have always wanted to read the Bible and this was the challenge that spearheaded that endeavor. I read it without any commentaries and just prayed that the Lord will help me understand. Many areas are a challenge but overall I understood that one's sin will carry you to Hell. I do not want to go to Hell and must repent and change according to the Word. I am reading the Word again. I would like to get close to the Lord like Moses, Elijah, Job, Daniel, Ezekiel, and Paul were for example (to name a few). I sometimes think to myself what did these people do to have that passion and love for the Lord. I want to have a life that honors the Lord just like they did. So, I will continue to read my Word. I want to obey Him continuously and fully. Thank you for just presenting the Word in its raw and unedited form.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. Thank you for the kind words. Your email was a GREAT blessing to read because of your godly desire to live in a way to be an honor to Jesus. That is our heart’s desire too! In fact, we pray that for ourselves. Your email reminds me of what a sister in the Lord told us years ago. She read through the entire Bible and said there is no eternal security in there! Amen. We wholeheartedly agree. It is therefore the devil who wants people to think they can live like the devil and still go to heaven. The sooner people know that all forms of Calvinism are from the pits of hell, the better it will be for the church world. It is holiness or hell. We must endure to the end or miss God’s kingdom.
The churches in our day are more interested in the size of their church building and large crowds than in SOULS. Consequently, the preachers water down the truth of God so people in their sins won’t get angry and leave. Rather than preach the word for the sake of their hell bound SOULS, they would rather fleece them of their money here! The version of Christianity that people are acquainted with in our day is a nauseating, powerless, cheap counterfeit. Most have never seen a real bold, unashamed, zealot for the things of God. They only know hypocrites, church scandals and once saved always saved. Sin is winked at and embraced, even among the “leaders.” May God fill you with his Holy Spirit and empower you to speak out his truths when it is convenient and when it is not convenient and to live an exemplary life. And may God help us too as we endeavor to rake in a large harvest of SOULS among the religious lost, who are saturating the world. GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) Your web article the “Dangers of Drunkenness” was something I didn’t know existed. Truly inspiring. Nobody has spelled it out like you have. I really needed this. Thank you
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. Thanks for the compliments. In our dark day many think drunkenness, viewing porn, gambling, etc. are all normal living, even for Christians. The problem comes back to the preachers who are not teaching the word and living holy lives.
If you have never read through the New Testament for yourself, please read it carefully. Your ETERNAL DESTINY depends on what you do with that message. When a person gets saved, he also gets set free from sin addictions and becomes a new creation. Read this about salvation http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/salvationps.htm Here is a very important article for new converts http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/newconverts.htm
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm
Remember 1 Cor. 2:9. GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) Greetings. I have followed your stuff for a few months now and enjoy it very much. I have been a believer since 1970 and have never been a OSAS advocate. I have not found any other teacher that has touched on the subject as thorough as you. A scripture was used in a discussion a few weeks back in the context of it possibly supporting OSAS. If it is on your site somewhere, I haven't seen it. I wanted to ask you if you would comment on it. Thanks! Eph 4:30, “And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.” Fellow Truth Advocate,
(RESPONSE) Here is a link which should help you with Eph. 4:30 http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/seal.htm Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, The Believer’s Conditional Security. There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written.
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm
Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) I read your page about Fatima and Marian devotion. The idea that Mary is the Queen of Heaven was actually something believed by early Christians. In the Christian catacombs, which contains some of the oldest Christian art in existence, there is at least one very clear (and probably more) frescoes showing the coronation of Mary as Queen of Heaven and Earth, dating from about the 3rd or 4th Century AD. And from that point on, if you look over early Christian art, you'll find more paintings, illuminated manuscripts, frescoes, etc, depicting Mary as the Queen of Heaven and the coronation. So, it's not something the Catholic Church made up later on. It was a very early Christian belief.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. Please know that ALL Christian teachings and corrections are to come from Scripture (2 Tim. 3:16,17). On that point alone what you are believing about Mary being the Queen of Heaven and Earth is invalidated. Secondly, you do not know the art work you are referring to was actually done by Christians. You are just assuming it was. Also, you do not know their intended meaning. Perhaps the female was not Mary, but some other person. Furthermore, there is no question that the earliest Christians, those of the New Testament including Peter, NEVER viewed Mary as Queen of Heaven and Earth. See http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/maryofbible.htm The Catholic Church has invented a Mary that doesn’t exist and sadly people are trusting in her for their salvation. This alone will cause many sincere people to be lost in the end.
The Bible was primarily given to inform mankind about salvation. That message from God to man excludes Mary. In a nutshell, it is repentance towards God and faith in Christ Jesus (Acts 20:21). To repent means to turn from sin. Salvation has nothing to do with Mary, being a Catholic, the sacraments, etc. Instead it centers around a submissive faith in the Lord Jesus for salvation, a faith that will unashamedly follow him in this wicked day. GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) If the eternal security is not true, than it seems to me that all of us Christians may hit hell and bust it wide open. How does one know for sure if they are saved. If any sin separates me from God after my conversion, than I would suspect that the sins most overlook could place us outside the safety area. Since it is impossible to be 100% sin free, at least I have not figured out how to be sin free although I would like to be, than it might be possible to be lost at any given moment on any day. How is the believer reconciled to God if the grace of God is able to save me but not able to keep me? Is salvation a work of man or God? I have understood that no one is able to come to God unless He draws them first, if it takes the power of God to “draw” me and provide salvation for me, it seems reasonable that that same power would keep me during my journey.
I don’t think anyone is able to live their believing life with Christ and sin is totally absent from their lives. What am I missing? If one is not eternally secure and can lose salvation, and if I understand correctly, there is no more hope for that person, that is if I interpret Hebrews 6: 4-6 correctly. Something is amis, I don’t understand. What constitutes loss of salvation…killing, adultery, fornication, lieing, stealing, these are all works of the flesh and should be avoided out of my love for God, but if I were to fall short and be found guilty of one, then I am guilty of all, Am I now unsaved? Is there no room for repentance? Please Help me to understand. As soon as I get a little extra money, I will order the books, perhaps they will help me understand better.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. Please know now that eternal security is NOT true. It is the devil’s first lie to mankind (Gen. 3:4) and his servants have been spreading the same message ever since. That message is: The righteous will not die over sin. A few of the many false teachers are Charles Stanley, John MacArthur, Ray Comfort, Dave Hunt, Paul Washer, Mr. Jim White, Matthew Slick, Robert Morey. They are all teaching that poison. The sooner Christians know it is false the sooner they can hold on and keep themselves from idols, etc. We are in a battle for eternity and SOULS are in jeopardy because of this lie.
One can know he/she is saved now if he is following Jesus NOW. If one is not obeying Jesus NOW, but in some sin like porn, drunkenness, lying, theft, slandering, etc. he is on the road to hell, even if he was truly saved in the past. See Eph. 5:5-7; Rev. 21:8; 1 Cor. 6:9,10; etc. Ponder this concise truth:
This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother. (1 John 3:10)
(The truly saved can fall away and serve the devil again, 2 Peter 2:20-22; 1 Tim. 5:11-15; 1:5,6; etc.) There is sin that leads to spiritual death and sin that doesn’t (1 John 5:16,17). All sins are not the same in their effect on our souls. Some sins are greater than others (Jn. 19:11). One type is eternal (Mk. 3:29), while others are not. Another type of sin is uniquely against our bodies, while other sins are outside our bodies (1 Cor. 6:18). 1 Jn. 5:16 declares there is a sin that does not lead to death while there is a sin that leads to death. Sins such as worry (Phil. 4:6), unthankfulness (Col. 2:7, 3:15; Lk. 17:11-18) and not being completely humble and gentle (Eph. 4:2) are not included in any of the lists of sins that will send people to the lake of fire, even if they were once saved. However, other sins certainly will send any person to hell if they die unrepentant, even a person who was once saved. (See 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Rev. 21:8; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5,6; Jude 7; Rev. 22:15; etc.).
God provided salvation, but man must accept it and not reject it, even after conversion. Grace doesn’t force one to continue to believe on Jesus! You have been taught a counterfeit “grace” by the eternal security teachers. Remember that. See Titus 2:12 for the truth about grace.
Heb. 6:4-6 refers to people who committed eternal sin. That passage alone is enough to refute eternal security. The Bible teaches a person can get saved more than once (Luke 15:24,32; Rom. 11:19-23; James 5:19,20).
Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, The Believer’s Conditional Security. There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written.
... Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage.
GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) Your home page verifies that you have no hope of salvation. Why? because you hope in yourself. Do you expect Jesus to go to the cross again for you? He won't. Everything you quote is twisted to put the focus on you instead of the saving power of Jesus Christ. Salvation is in Christ alone and if you don't think it covers ALL sin after we are saved then what bible are you reading? You need context, please, seriously, no joke.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. We hope in JESUS, our Lord, master and king, whom we follow. He said we must endure to the end to be saved (Mt. 10:22) so we believe him. You have been so indoctrinated by the once saved always saved teachers you think if one rejects that teaching he must believe Jesus will have to go to the cross again. We align our beliefs with Jesus’ teaching and his followers who wrote the New Testament. Apparently like many others you don’t understand saving grace because you have been presented and accepted a counterfeit that allows you to live wickedly and still think all is well with your soul. What we quote is in context and is what the Bible teaches. It is the OSAS teachers who misuse Scripture. We believe that we are saved by grace (Eph. 2:8,9) but we can fall from grace (Gal. 5:2-4). We are justified by faith (Rom. 5:1) but our faith can become shipwrecked (1 Tim. 1:19,20) and cease to exist (Lk. 8:13; Rom. 11:19-23). We are not under the law (Rom. 6:14,15) but if you live according to the sinful nature you will die (Rom. 8:13). Paul taught against legalism (Gal. 5:3,4) but he also taught that no immoral, impure or greedy person has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God (Eph. 5:5-7). We are not saved by works (Eph. 2:8,9) but to reap eternal life and not destruction you must sow to please the Spirit and not the sinful nature (Gal. 6:8,9). God is faithful to us (1 Jn. 1:9; 1 Cor. 10:13) but we must be faithful to him to the very end of our lives to escape the lake of fire or second death (Rev. 2:10,11). God surely loves us (Jn. 3:16; Mk. 10:21; Rom. 8:35-39) but those who inherit the kingdom of God love God (Jam 2:5; 1 Cor. 2:9) and to love God means to obey his commands (Jn. 14:15; 1 Jn. 5:3). We have freedom in Christ (Gal. 5:1) but this freedom is not to indulge the sinful nature (Gal. 5:13; 1 Pet 2:16).
Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, The Believer’s Conditional Security. There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written.
Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage.
GOD BLESS YOU.
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(Letter) I listen to your sermon tapes daily. Because of them I have grown spiritually and the bible makes sense to me now. All my life I read the bible sporadically. I wanted to crave it as I felt I should but because of my OSAS view, I was left confused and discouraged. But now I crave God's word more than food. I write and rewrite verses in notebooks to meditate on them and to memorize them. I feel an urgent need to understand what God's will is. I also wanted to tell you that the sermon, "The Fall of Jericho" that is on your web site, really was a blessing to me. The points you bring out about faith grab my heart. One of my sons is a naval RP with the marines and is due to be deployed soon to Afganistan. I am memorizing and claiming the 91st Psalm for him. I pray every day for you and your wife to be strong and healthy and safe as you battle on the front lines for truth. Your sister in Christ.
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(EMAIL) I read your _____________ concerning Eternal Security. The saved ones are born again people, right? You must be “born again” Jesus said. Here is an analogy for you. A child is born to a set of parents, that child grows and stars to rebel and walks away from his parents, even thou he choses to live that kind of life does that mean he is no longer their child, that he lost that position? no He does not stop being a child because he disobeyed his parents. He lost the privileges, he lost the fellowship with his parents, he came out from under their protection, so is with the believer, your position does not change, otherwise God will be a lair, Jesus said I will give them eternal life, you choose to walk away from the protection and fellowship of the Father and in the end you lose your reward, the many crowns you could have had, the closeness you could have even in heaven with the Lord Jesus Christ, that believer will stand far of waving palm branches instead of seating and ruling with the Lord, because they did not learn to do that here. If you have once put your trust in the Lord Jesus Christ you're eternally His, he you choose to live in sin you will be saved, yet so as through fire. Read I Cor. 3 That's why it's important to understand the doctrine of the reward of the believer.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. Your analogy of a natural child disobeying doesn’t align itself with what Jesus and the apostles taught. We are warned:
See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. (Col 2:8)
You and others have been taken captive by that argument. Now you think you can lie, steal, murder, commit adultery, slander, etc. and remain a Christian! Those teachers did a fine job setting you up for a plunge into hell. For your own soul’s sake, don’t be deceived.
Jesus gives eternal life to those who are continuously “following” him (John 10:27,28), not to those who turn to drunkenness, swindling, homosexuality, witchcraft, etc. If he did, he would be a liar, which he isn’t. We must endure to the end to be saved (Mt. 10:22; Heb. 3:14; Rev. 2:10,11).
There is nothing in 1 Cor. 3, or any other verse, which teaches one can live wickedly after salvation and only lose their rewards. The righteous can die spiritually through sin http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/spiritualdeath.htm The verse they have misused is:
If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames. (1 Cor 3:14,15)
The ONLY passage which gives details about losing rewards is Mt. 6:1-20. Jesus taught we will lose rewards by doing RIGHTEOUS ACTS (such as prayer, fasting and giving to the poor) with the wrong motive. NOTHING in any Scripture teaches a Christian will merely lose his rewards over sins listed in 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Eph. 5:5-7; Rev. 21:8, etc. Do NOT be deceived!
Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, The Believer’s Conditional Security. There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written.
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage.
GOD BLESS YOU.