EO Responds To
Emails 09-20-09
(EMAIL) I just wanted to thank you for exposing the doctrines of Calvinism and OSAS. I have believed strongly in both from time to time but now see the great fallacy of such beliefs. I think these are lies that Satan would be very happy to have us latch on to, and I am very glad that you oppose these doctrines. However, I must respectfully disagree with you on the doctrine of eternal conscious torment of the unsaved in hell....Again, thank you for your defense of sound doctrine.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. It is GREAT to read you now can recognize the DEADLY errors in Calvinism and once saved always saved. Thank you Jesus.
You also mentioned you reject the doctrine of eternal conscious torment for the wicked dead. Please read our teaching on it carefully showing the opposite. It is the message of the Bible as distressing as it may be http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/eternaltorment.htm
Please answer just 2 questions:
QUESTION #1: How can there be “greater condemnation” in hell if all will be annihilated???? If annihilation was true the condemnation would be equal for all. See Mt. 23:14,15.
QUESTION #2: The Lord said of Judas that he will be worse off after death than before he was born. Before we (including Judas) were born we knew nothing. In other words, we were in a condition similar to being annihilated. However, that is not what Judas and other wicked dead would know, according to Jesus. See Mk. 14:21.
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Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) hi i'm not a backslider because i know i can't backslide from GOD because i know i need Him but right now i'm having a rebellious spirit towards God. it's because of so many unanswered prayers which contains no wrong motivation..in fact those prayers are good and so important in my life. sometimes i feel like he doesn't want me to be happy although i know it's impossible but whenever i see my situation, it's the more i see that God has no intention of giving me the happiness that i'm longing for. i just can't seem to understand him. i just can't seem to see that he wants me to be happy.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. You ARE backslid! Anyone who has a rebellious spirit towards God is a backslider (if that person was previously saved). The first and greatest command is to LOVE GOD with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength, which you don’t.
Regarding “unanswered prayer,” please know that ALL Christians, from time to time, don’t get a quick yes answer to their prayers, even with a right motive! Maybe the timing is off, as with Zachariah (Lk. 1:20). Another possibility is you are being tested, as when God tested Hezekiah and left him (2 Chron. 32:31). Ponder the way it was for some of God’s children (Heb. 11:35-38). Regardless, you need to REPENT! Your SOUL is in the greatest danger. Please read these over http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/safesoul.htm
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm
Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) ...It all makes sense what you write about in your book "The Believer's Conditional Security" about grace and the law and how they work together. I'm still in a state of astonishment and I shudder when I think about the church that I've been attending for the last 3 years. The music is fun and the people are generally nice, and the pastor is hip, but it's always nagged me when he mentions that when you come to Jesus, your sins are forgiven "past, present, and future" and his comments like "I've been to AA meetings and let me tell you something, those are the people that get it" referring to them being understanding in matters of brokenness. And recently, I had lunch with the pastor and my friend _______ and some others in the church, and both _______ and I were so disappointed with the pastor's superficial attitude. Throughout the conversation, he referred to books and mentioned Piper and other writers but rarely mentioned The Bible. He even stated that some people get so legalistic and that he didn't want to be too legalistic or too much all about grace.
And I think about the persecuted church, this has been on my mind for years, and I would wonder, how can those Christians who are being beaten for their faith, for preaching in countries where it is outlawed, have anything in common with Christians here, who have freedoms to evangelize but do not?
And now that I've read your book, it all makes sense....Thanks again for spending the time to dig deep in God's word.
I pray that God will use you and those who have read your book to be the voice in the wilderness, on their knees and out in the streets, standing up for God, crying out for people to repent, and urging everyone everywhere to turn from sin, follow God, and read and do what The Bible says. Thanks so much...God Bless You.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. Thanks for sharing your experience. The “pastor” of your church is NOT serving God. He is lulling people asleep and poisoning them with a satanic message which has damned multitudes. Please, FOR YOUR SAKE, stop going there and stop supporting the demonic message of OSAS through him. Your presence and financial donations are helping to spread that evil. This is very serious.
Please try to help ________ learn about eternal security being a snare to one’s SOUL. Loan her your book or buy another for her to read, if necessary. She too needs to leave that church.
Also, did you notice how the OSAS teachers equate their demonic lie to “grace”? Notice what Jude says:
Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. (Jude 1:3, 4)
That is EXACTLY what the Calvinists do! BTW, if you don’t know Piper is a once saved always saved teacher, please know he is!
Regarding your repentance, please KNOW that it is vital for SOUL to be free of porn and all forms of sexual immorality. Ponder Rev. 21:8; etc. These articles should help you http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/safesoul.htm
GOD BLESS YOU. Remember Heb. 3:14.
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(EMAIL) David Servant is my good friend and a trusted servant of the Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone who says anything wrong, false, or damaging about him or his character is furthering the work Satan and the kingdom of darkness.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. How could a retired lawyer, who went by hard evidence for years, reject the evidence from the Bible in favor of a “good friend”? Following your logic, my good Catholic friends who I also trusted at one time (as well as my own Catholic family) were doctrinally correct about the Rosary, the Fatima visions, the Pope, etc.! THINK! Come to your senses! [We have said NOTHING “wrong or false” about David Servant’s teachings. We have accurately represented him, his heresies (and refuted them) for the sake of SOULS, who are endangered by what he is spreading. As Christians we are commanded to do such.]
By endorsing David Servant the way you have, you have indirectly exalted him to an untouchable, Pope-like person who can’t even be justly criticized! You wrote: anything [said]... damaging about him or his character is furthering the work of Satan and the kingdom of darkness. To you he is beyond correction. For this you deserve the Skull and Crossbones Award.
We believe the Scriptures are final authority (2 Tim. 3:16,17). If one’s family members, friend/s etc. violate them, especially as flagrantly as David Servant has and is, that person, regardless who he is, is wrong. David Servant’s message is a unique and DEADLY SNARE TO SOULS, since he also rejects Calvinism, but still teaches a definite “license for immorality”! He is inconsistent, contradictory and worst of all unScriptural, according to a comparison of his teachings on SALVATION to the Bible! 2 Tim. 3:16,17 is what we go by, as all Christians are told to do. WHY have you deviated and opposed us in favor of a false teacher? Your choice will only cause more harm to the kingdom of God and to precious SOULS.
Remember: David Servant would have to say that King David remained saved in his adultery and murder! David Servant would also have to say if a person previously saved dies in the very act of adultery he would go to heaven if it was only occasional adultery and not “practice” or “habitual” adultery! (There are no “Christian adulterers”!) David Servant learned those terms (practice, habitual, etc.) from John MacArthur, a Calvinist, and applies his slick choice of terms to his own message. BOTH David Servant and John MacArthur (as well as Charles Stanley) would agree that King David remained saved in adultery and murder. That is a license for immorality taught under “grace.” Those teachers are serving Satan—not people who expose and refute such evil and teach holiness and endurance for final salvation. Please fear God and exalt his truth over any and all situations, relationships and friendships. That is what we are called to do. Judgment will be based on the Word of God, not on our personal friendships or preferences.
One final thought: the recent mass murderer/suicide (George Sodini, who believed eternal security) could have also possibly been a Christian who is now in heaven (according to David Servant) because it was only his first mass murder and suicide and therefore “occasional” and not “habitual,” “lifestyle” or “practice.”
Would you like to text debate: Can a Christian lose his salvation over one sin or does it have to be ‘practice’? and post our exchanges on our mutual web sites for our readers to examine? If you refuse, please pass this same debate invitation on to David Servant. (We believe that message is demonic and nothing better. It must be exposed and refuted.)
Your email intent to try to hurt has missed the mark, because it was not Scriptural and therefore invalidated. GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) I just wanted to thank you and whoever was responsible for the section on why you should not be using Mary as a mediator. I have many friends who are Catholic and my stomach turns in knots when they start with the "Hail Mary" business. I for a long time and through own personal study of the new testament feel that Jesus and only Jesus is who we should pray to. You had some great information and scriptures to help me talk to them about why we should not be using Mary as our go between with God. Just an random person thankful that you are trying to make a difference.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. You are very welcome. It is our pleasure to spread the eternal truths of God, even though that same message is often rejected and hated.
It is a very sad situation for Catholics in our day. Far too few Christians are trying to help them find salvation and turn from the various forms of idolatry in the Catholic church. Because there is no once saved always saved, Catholics who do find salvation need to quickly get out of that religious environment for the sake of salvation. Unfortunately, the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons often come across their paths and they get deceived by their false presentations.
The issue about Mary with a Catholic is monumental. The truth is the Mary they have been presented is NOT the Mary of the Bible. That is the problem. Their Mary has been invented and grew in importance over the centuries. She is now, among other things to them, the mediatrix and dispenser of all graces! Shockingly sad, but true!
By the way, the Father can be prayed to (Mt. 6:6; John 16:23; etc.) as well as the Lord Jesus (John 14:14; Acts 7:59,60; etc.), but never Mary, the saints or angels. May God bless you.
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(EMAIL) I really appreciate what you are trying to do, in helping us sort out incorrect doctrine, and be followers of Christ as He would want us to be. I saw where you have tried to minister to Jehovah Witness with Bible tracts. I was wondering if you believe the Roman Catholics are 'lost', and if I should pursue witnessing to them? thank you and God bless your ministry.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. It is IMPOSSIBLE for any person who believes the plan of salvation, as taught by Catholicism, to be a real Christian. Their plan of salvation is: the sacraments, Mary and church membership. At times they also add other things like wearing the brown scapular. Regardless, Catholics need to learn the message or the New Testament and change for their SOUL’S sake.
YES, you should witness to Catholics as often as possible, as well as, other lost people. We have found that there are many types of Catholics. Not all are “closed.” Some are very open and willing to accept the Biblical message, but too few ever hear it.
Remember also, we have a book entitled, “Is This The Mary Of The Bible?” which can help much in winning Catholics.
Please consider signing up for our email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm
GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) Hi, my name is _____________. I have recently been learning more about demons and the authority of the believer in ephesians. I am going through a troublesome battle in my marriage. My husband (_______) is a good Christian man who has been saved for several years. In the last year or so he has allowed ungodly people to influence his life and slowly I see him falling away. In a cry to God I asked him to help me and reveal to me what I can do to save my marriage and my husband. He brought to me the teaching from Gloria Copeland and Billy Brim on the Authority of the Believer, which has helped me tremendously. I don't know how exactly to pray for him. I have been taking authority over my family and binding the spirits but I see very little result. I know I must rely on God and I have faith that He is working on my family but I feel like I am missing something. I have been praying that God will drive his evil ungodly friends away like a chaf in the wind. I have tried to talk to him about it but it is like he just doesn't understand. His friend is an agnostic who's girlfriend is bisexual, as a christian this is very hard to deal with . Please if you have any advice I will take head. I would also appreciate prayer for my family . Sincerely , To God be the Glory,
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. There is NO DOUBT that faith in God and his promises are powerful and miraculous. Please study these topics directly from the Bible apart from all other sources. It is too easy to be deceived.
We are not sure who Billy Brim is but we do know about Gloria Copeland. The Copelands teach a very dangerous popular doctrine common called the Prosperity message. It generates greed and promotes dissatisfaction in one’s present circumstances, which are unscriptural. It is a very serious and dangerous doctrine. Hence, for anyone to be that far off calls into question their other teachings too.
Your husband needs to be warned about “godless chatter” (2 Tim. 2:16) and being a friend of this world (James 4:4; 1 John 2:15). See also 1 Cor. 15:33. Is he fully aware that there is no eternal security? If not, his learning that fact should help shock him to his senses and bring on the fear of God. He can yet go to hell. He is not in the kingdom yet. The sooner Christians know that the better.
Keep praying and walking holy to the very end. Please consider signing up for our email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm
GOD BLESS YOU. Heb. 3:14.
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(EMAIL) You have talked about two types of sin: one that will not inherit the kingdom of God and the other that will not send you to Hell like worrying, please with scripture explain.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. The Bible is clear that all sins are not the same in their effect on our souls. Some sins are greater than others (Jn. 19:11). One type is eternal (Mk. 3:29), while others are not. Another type of sin is uniquely against our bodies, while other sins are outside our bodies (1 Cor. 6:18). 1 Jn. 5:16 declares there is a sin that does not lead to death while there is a sin that leads to death. Sins such as worry (Phil. 4:6), unthankfulness (Col. 2:7, 3:15; Lk. 17:11-18) and not being completely humble and gentle (Eph. 4:2) are not included in any of the lists of sins that will send people to the lake of fire, even if they were once saved. However, other sins certainly will send any person to hell if they die unrepentant, even a person who was once saved. (See 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Rev. 21:8; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5,6; Jude 7; Rev. 22:15; etc.).
The perseverance of the saints people (or once saved always saved proponents) teach all sins are the same and use only one Scripture to do that, which is taken out of context. By teaching that way, many people have very little concern about any sin, including adultery, drunkenness, hate, greed, etc.
Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, "The Believer's Conditional Security." There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written. It has never been refuted and never will, even though thousands of Baptists ministers have it!
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL from India) You may refer to Matthew 28:19, 20 and clarify which comes first, whether teaching (making disciples) or baptizing. According to my native vernacular, making disciples comes first. But I am not so clear with the English translation. Here the eternal security proponents say when becoming a believer is an act for a moment, being a disciple is continuous action which may not be necessary for all the believers. If my understanding of the above verses according to native language is right, then I can easily refute their point. What about the English translation? Blessings
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. You referred to Mt. 28:19,20, which reads:
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” (Mat 28:18-20)
A person is first made a disciple of the Lord Jesus BEFORE he is water baptized. The problem and confusion regarding this centers around the ERROR that one can be a Christian and not be a disciple of the Lord Jesus. The truth is, if a person is saved he is Jesus’ disciple and it is impossible to be Jesus’ disciple unless one is saved. The following verses show this:
He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” (Mat 12:48-50)
NOTE: Jesus’ spiritual family = Jesus’ disciples. They are the ones doing the will of God. Two other relevant Scriptures are:
If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:26)
In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:33)
In the book of Acts, people were water baptized ALMOST IMMEDIATELY after getting saved and that parallels the truth in Mt. 28:18-20.
The eternal security proponents have DISTORTED and CONFUSED the meaning of a disciple of Christ to protect their evil doctrine. How is this done? At least twice we read where disciples lost their salvation, which is contrary to what they teach. Judas is the prime example (Mt. 10:1-4). Judas went to hell after his suicide (John 17:12; Mk. 14:21). Hence, the perseverance of the saints is refuted! (End of discussion.)
Another time disciple is used contrary to eternal security is in John 6:66:
From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
Hopefully, all of this information clarifies your question and helps to also show once saved always saved is not a Christian teaching.
Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, “The Believer’s Conditional Security.” There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written. It has never been refuted and never will, even though thousands of Baptists ministers have it!
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) I have listened to some of your messages ...you seem to be very passionate about the subject of Eternal Security. I would like it if you would look at the attached studies done by David Bercot....
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name. Thanks for thinking of us and sending the material. The problem is: David Bercot is NOT sound, according to Scripture!
Bercot has elevated the writings of the ante-Nicene “fathers” to the way we should all interpret the New Testament, but has not noticed (or refuses to report to his audience) that the same so-called “fathers” CONTRADICTED other “fathers” and even themselves! Furthermore, Origen was a DEFINITE HERETIC, who is also considered among that group! Hence, those men were NOT sound.
By wrongly viewing the New Testament Scriptures as he has done and drawing many AWAY from the Bible alone, he has also deceived some into thinking water baptism is necessary to get forgiven. Why? Again, because that is what some of the ante-Nicene fathers wrongly taught!
Bercot has missed the power behind 2 Tim. 3:16,17 and has also brought some people one giant step closer to getting back under the Pope, which is not good!
Sadly, Bercot’s entire ministry is built on the WRONG foundation—the ante-Nicene fathers. To teach the above facts would discredit his work and ministry. Hopely, this information helps.... GOD BLESS YOU.