EO Responds To Emails

09-21-08

(EMAIL) I hold that you do not have true faith. I hold all the Catholic Church infallibly teaches. What is your authority?

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

Since the Bible is infallible, if the Catholic church teaches something in contrast to it, that can NOT be infallible too. An example is the Rosary and how it flatly contradicts Mt. 6:6-8. Have you read our book, “Is This The Mary Of The Bible?” It has much info in it that can help you. GOD BLESS YOU. Heb. 3:14.

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(EMAIL) ...I have a few trouble verses that I would like you to exegetically and hermeneutically interpret for me. They come out of the book of Ephesians 1:13 and 14.... Now I totally reject, without most reservation, the teaching of eternal security based upon the Scriptures: 1 Corinthians 6:9,10, Galatians 6:8,9, and Ezekiel 18:4, 20-28. I believe that eternal security is no less than a license for immorality of all kind that truly angers and grieves God.... Could you please help me with this. It is somewhat troubling. I want to be sound in all that I teach...... especially eternal matters. Thank you and God bless you.

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

Every mention of the “seal” of the Holy Spirit was written by Paul. So whatever it means he certainly would know. That being established it is CRYSTAL CLEAR that Paul FOUGHT AGAINST what we call in our day eternal security. Ponder 1 Tim. 1:19,20; 3:6; Rom. 6:22; 8:13; 11:19-23; Gal. 5:2-4; 5:19-21; 6:8,9; etc. All those verses fit in with the “seal,” but do NOT support OSAS.

Secondly, in Ephesians, just 4 chapters past 1:13,14, Paul also gave us Eph. 5:5-7, which also refutes the OSAS interpretation of the seal. He apparently didn’t teach the seal was unbreakable and Christians couldn’t avoid going to God’s kingdom after death, as OSAS declares.

There are also at least 16 examples of people in the NT who once had spiritual life OR types of such people who afterwards lost their righteous standing before God. Again, the “seal” did NOT prevent this from happening. Hence, when we ponder other Scriptures it is clear that the seal of the Holy Spirit ONLY applies as one continues to follow JESUS. If such turns away, he is back on the road to hell again. The seal won’t prevent this.

Did you read what was written in “The Believer’s Conditional Security” on Eph. 1:13,14? Hope this helps put this to rest in your heart once and for all.

GOD BLESS YOU. 1 Cor. 15:2.

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(EMAIL) Hello, and first let me say I admire your efforts to refute the false doctrine of eternal security. It is an infection in our churches today, and I\'m glad I\’ve found one who believes the truth.

I would also assume that you align with the principle of free will in the Bible, as do I. Along these lines, how can I properly interpret Joshua 11:20? It really does seems like this confirms God as one who disregards human will when it comes to their eternal destiny. Any reply would be greatly appreciated.

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

It is great to know you are not an eternal security proponent and heretic. Yes, we believe in man’s free will and reject all 5 points of Calvinism, as we do other doctrines of demons. You asked about Josh. 11:20:

For it was the LORD himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the LORD had commanded Moses.

God hardened their hearts, but exactly what opportunities they had beforehand to accept God’s truth is not clear from that Scripture. However, we know from other Scriptures that God wants all people to be saved (2 Pet. 3:9; 1 Tim. 2:4; etc.). Hence, they had an opportunity for salvation but refused and God hardened their hearts. Pharaoh is another example of this.

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GOD BLESS YOU.

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(EMAIL) Hi! Erwin Lutzer also thought Mel Gibbson’ movie, “The Passion” was a Christian movie. I haven’t read anything of his since.

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

It was a horribly deceitful thing to watch how Catholic Mel Gibson unscripturally slipped in the fabricated Mary of Catholicism into The Passion. That movie was great to show the horrible beating Jesus took, but it was almost RUINED by their Mary and her [supposed] importance.

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GOD BLESS YOU. Heb. 3:14.

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(EMAIL) Hi there, Just to say that I have read some of your bits and pieces, and need to know as an ex 7th Day Adventist, Where to from here, I am in turmoil over just how many of you are on line and although most are misguided which is sad as, I have been for 34 yrs as well. So many churches and Religious Leaders, I am certain God will guide for sure. You have a very impressive website too. God Bless your work

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

It is WONDERFUL to read you are an ex- 7th Day Adventist. Are you now extending a trusting and submitting faith in JESUS for your salvation? Are you TRUSTING in Jesus 100% for salvation? Please read this http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/salvationps.htm This should also help you http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/newconverts.htm

We are in a DEEP DARK APOSTATE day. Almost all of the churches are filled with sin and false doctrine. Try to find 1 or 2 others in your area who are serious about God and study the Scriptures and put into practice what you read.

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We believe that we are saved by grace (Eph. 2:8,9) but we can fall from grace (Gal. 5:2-4). We are justified by faith (Rom. 5:1) but our faith can become shipwrecked (1 Tim. 1:19,20) and cease to exist (Lk. 8:13; Rom. 11:19-23). We are not under the law (Rom. 6:14,15) but if you live according to the sinful nature you will die (Rom. 8:13). Paul taught against legalism (Gal. 5:3,4) but he also taught that no immoral, impure or greedy person has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God (Eph. 5:5-7). We are not saved by works (Eph. 2:8,9) but to reap eternal life and not destruction you must sow to please the Spirit and not the sinful nature (Gal. 6:8,9). God is faithful to us (1 Jn. 1:9; 1 Cor. 10:13) but we must be faithful to him to the very end of our lives to escape the lake of fire or second death (Rev. 2:10,11). God surely loves us (Jn. 3:16; Mk. 10:21; Rom. 8:35-39) but those who inherit the kingdom of God love God (Jam 2:5; 1 Cor. 2:9) and to love God means to obey his commands (Jn. 14:15; 1 Jn. 5:3). We have freedom in Christ (Gal. 5:1) but this freedom is not to indulge the sinful nature (Gal. 5:13; 1 Pet 2:16).

GOD BLESS YOU. Heb. 3:14.

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(EMAIL) They [eternal security teachers] aren’t leading multitudes to hell. They preach faith in Jesus. If you’re saying that’s not ultimately what saves us then you’re antichrist. Also, the osas doctrine does not necessarily lead to a licence for immorality. They still teach repentance. In fact my best friend is a Baptist and they teach osas but not a license to do whatever they want. Rather, they label those who do whatever they want under the “never saved in the first place” category.

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

A false gospel will not help people but only snare their SOULS. Part of the real “gospel” is 1 Cor. 15:2:

By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

All eternal security teachers deny those precious truths, but you continue to stick up for them and defend their lies and half truths. Perhaps you are not aware of what they really teach. We have hundreds of actual quotes from them. They do teach you can “fornicate,” “live like the devil,” “deny Christ,” etc. and remain saved. They ONLY use the “never saved” message at times to cloud and confuse their identity. For example, especially John MacArthur in the 1980's made that a common answer, but even he would have to say King David remained saved when in adultery and murder!

The next time someone tells you “never saved” if they turn to wickedness, ask him this: “Are you saying it is impossible for a Christian to commit adultery, get drunk, lie, steal, murder, etc.?” If you ask that question, be assured you will NEVER hear any deny that a Christian can do those wicked things!!!!!!! Hence, they really don’t believe their own “never saved” teaching. They do teach a license for sin, but do it sometimes in a covert way .... Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.

(P.S. You don’t go by Jude!!!!!!!)

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(EMAIL) Hello....I came across your website, and quite frankly, I am very confused as to your ministry’s stance on eternal assurance. I believe that you refer to it as “OSAS”. I find it extremely amazing that you claim such teachers as John Macarthur, Charles Stanley, Ray Comfort, Paul Washer, etc teach a false gospel. I actually find it comforting to know that such teachers do exist, ones that teach a saving grace through Jesus Christ that is preceded and followed by repentance, unlike most designer ministries that cater to a man-centered theology based on one’s self-esteem (ie; Joel Olsteen).

Is it your ministry’s belief that true salvation can be lost, and then regained again and again if necessary? Or lost totally? Okay, I have an open mind, seriously, I am a seeker of biblical truths at all costs...even if it offends me. So let’s say, hypothetically, that there are two men:

The first man, is “saved” at an early age. His life is center around God’s word, and he lives it that way. He is selfless, caring and giving. He shares the love of God at every opportunity. Sin troubles him, because he hates what God hates. Finally, after years of devotion to God, the church, and his family, he slips hard one night and has an adulterous affair. Immediately after leaving the woman's house, he is struck by a car and instantly dies, without ever having the chance to repent and ask for God’s forgiveness. Did he lose his salvation? Will he now have to spend an eternity in Hell?

The second man is one’s who’s entire life is steeped in sin. He has never seeked the Lord, as a matter of fact, he blasphemes God at every opportunity. He has stolen, cheated, raped and murdered people. Eventually he is convicted and faces the death penalty. After years on death row, he continues to mock the Lord and show absolutely no remorse. Finally the hour has come....30 minutes prior to his death sentence, he meets with the prison chaplin, and accepts Jesus as his Lord and Saviour. He is then put to death. Will this man now get to spend an eternity with the Lord in Heaven? Did his impending execution prevent him from “falling from grace”? That’s ironic! Thank you,

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

Just go by the Bible and these problems will be resolved:

If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, he will die for it. (Ezek 33:18) And if a wicked man turns away from his wickedness and does what is just and right, he will live by doing so. (Ezek 33:19)

This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written.

Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage.

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GOD BLESS YOU.

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(EMAIL) I stumbled across your site today whilst browsing various theological viewpoints on Eternal salvation. I was surprised to read what you had written and also encouraged by it.

I am an ex JW and was led out from them by the Lord as i was searching for truth. As such i accepted that i was not saved by works but by Grace, i still held the viewpoint that works were important as James states “Faith without works is dead” and Jesus points out that those who work iniquity will not inherit the kingdom of God.

I therefore have always struggled with the churches view of Once saved always saved, Jude warns us against this, admonishing us that even though God once saved His people out of Egypt, He later destroyed those who were disobedient.

God wants us to be obedient because we love Him, How can God bless us if we walk contrary to all His righteous standards, isn’t sin still sin to God, can God approve of sin !! I realize there is now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus, but we need to be “in” Christ which i fear many are not.

Anyway i just wanted to thank you personally for standing up for the truth....

Blessings to you and yours. Your brother in Christ

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

You are wonderfully rare. It seems that the vast majority of people who get saved out of the JWs, get ensnared by the heresy of eternal security. It is very easy for such to happen since it is commonly taught as grace and the gospel and not a license for immorality as it really is. Beyond that, the big countercult and apologetic ministries are just about all eternal security teachers and people like you understandably get deceived by them ....

Also please read this http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/newconverts.htm

We send you a warm hug from the USA.

GOD BLESS YOU. Rev. 21:4.

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(EMAIL) Sorry, but I have a question here, According to what was written in this article, and given this part below:

“But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death” (Rev. 21:8).

It would seem that also Abraham could very well be in hell, right? Abraham lied twice about Sarah not being his wife, but his sister. We never ever read about him repenting of this. Just so i am clear, this means that Abraham could very well be in hell? Regardless of whether or not he is the ‘father’ of the Jews.

This article raises also the question (for me) that if we, being fallen creatures pulled towards sin, do not ALL repent from sins (even ones made that previous day) on our deathbed or when we are but inches from death-just a distance from its breath, then we will be on the way to hell, right?

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

There are various ways to answer your email. (1) Regardless if Abraham was a liar or not, if you are a liar you will be damned unless you get forgiven and get a purified heart. (2) Sarah was the “sister” of Abraham:

Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife. (Gen 20:12)

Hence, Abraham did NOT lie.

Your other question came up only because you also misunderstand the different degrees of sin. Again, all sins are not the same in their effect on our souls. Some sins are greater than others (Jn. 19:11). One type is eternal (Mk. 3:29), while others are not. Another type of sin is uniquely against our bodies, while other sins are outside our bodies (1 Cor. 6:18). 1 Jn. 5:16 declares there is a sin that does not lead to death while there is a sin that leads to death. Sins such as worry (Phil. 4:6), unthankfulness (Col. 2:7, 3:15; Lk. 17:11-18) and not being completely humble and gentle (Eph. 4:2) are not included in any of the lists of sins that will send people to the lake of fire, even if they were once saved. However, other sins certainly will send any person to hell if they die unrepentant, even a person who was once saved. (See 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Rev. 21:8; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5,6; Jude 7; Rev. 22:15; etc.).

Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, “The Believer’s Conditional Security.” There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written. Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage.

Over the years, I have observed what a disgusting breed the eternal security people are. They are always trying to make excuses for sin and wickedness. Rather than striving to live holy and glorify the Lord Jesus, they want to make allowances for sin.

Remember:

We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. (1 John 2:3) The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:4)

GOD BLESS YOU. Heb. 3:14

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(EMAIL) Your article on Nostradamus’ predictions on your website, http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/nostradamus.htm I have come to the understanding that you clearly don’t believe that Nostradamus’ predictions were true! It seems to me that you are denying them simply for the fact that you are a christian and that I find very closed-minded and shallow. I, myself, am a christian and even I personally believe his prophecies to be very true indeed and am very alarmed and interested in them. It’s very sad that someone could sit there and say, positively, absolutely that these prophesies aren’t true when they don’t know for fact if they aren’t. Many of the predictions/prophesies have been fulfilled and look at the date of when Nostradamus was born... how could a person living the the 16th century possibly know these things about the years to come? don’t say they were written afterwards, as your website states... I do agree, however, that some of the quatrains were tampered with and changed, like the one about 9/11. I have done research on this subject and have read many websites. Furthermore, the bible doesn’t give exact dates and times when the world will end , etc, etc. I’m not saying I don’t believe the bible but I definitely believe a lot of it was man-made. ( no offence). The point is, there is no way of disproving Nostradamus’ predictions and your website I see as a very closed-minded view.

(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.

Nostradamus was a false prophet and occultist. He did NOT get his powers from God. Though he is popular, this doesn’t make him a prophet with the ability to “see into the future.”

You stated you are a Christian. Since Nostradamus was in the occult, which is clearly condemned by God (Dt. 18:9-14) and will send such people to the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8)—unless they get forgiven and repent of such wickedness—how can you endorse him as something great? He was evil, according to God. He made false predictions through a forbidden means.

The Bible doesn’t have to give exact dates when the world will end to be true. If you want to know the real future of the world read the Bible, not what some proven false prophet has written, even if he is popular.

Remember what Jesus taught:

Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. (Mat 7:21)

GOD BLESS YOU. Mt. 7:13,14.

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