EO Responds To Emails 11-16-08
(EMAIL) Your arguments would be much stronger if you didn’t lie out what some of these men are teaching. I have never heard someone like Stanley preaching that it is ok to sin or that Christians have a license to sin. If they are teaching lies in the sense of eternal security, you are telling lies because you are twisting there teachings on top of it. It just doesn't make sense. I have a question, at what point does someone lose their salvation? Would Peter have been unsaved after he denied Christ? Did he then come back into Grace? Tough to explain Hebrews 6:4 - 6:6
4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
God Bless
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
Please be assured that every quote we have in our books and on our web site is real and in context. We have never taken out of context any quote to distort what the eternal security teachers are declaring. We fear God and don’t need to exaggerate their position. They have taught so many heretical things over the years it is shocking.
Charles Stanley is a heretic. He is handsome, intelligent, popular, respected and loved by many, but he is a heretic because of his doctrines. To actually hear him teaching some of these things click here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/sermons.htm
and listen to What’s Wrong With Today’s “Gospel”? We also have a booklet on him exclusively—“The Gospel According To Charles Stanley.”
Peter lost his salvation when de disowned the Lord Jesus (Mt. 10:33). He afterwards repented and got saved again. Had he died after disowning Jesus and before repenting he would have gone to hell. Ponder and memorize Mt. 10:22.
Heb. 6:4-6 is the exception to getting saved again because they committed ETERNAL SIN, which can’t be forgiven. The Bible does teach one can get saved again after losing his salvation (James 5:19,20; Luke 15:24,32; Rom. 11:19-23).
... GOD BLESS YOU.
________________________
(EMAIL) Hello my name is ____ and I just want to start by saying that I really enjoy your website and it is full of good information. I am a Christian, but I have a friend that is a JW (Jehovah’s Witness) and I have been witnessing to her for a while now. She was raised into this cult from a little child. We have talked about my beliefs and her beliefs and she says that she is not an active witness. I guess she is seeking the truth. My question is, do you have any ideas or some sort of support to help me show her the truth. I prey all the time for God to give me the wisdom to show her, but I don’t know what to do from here. I also have had two different witnesses come to my door in the past 2 months and have used your website to help me ask them questions. I feel with all my heart that I am called by God to witness the the JW’s. I would appreciate all the help you can give me. Thank you for you time.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
It is a blessing to read of your desire to see JWs come to salvation. They can be a rough group to deal with because of the heavy indoctrination in heresy and deep pride in most of them. However, their heart can change and open up to the truth.
What I recommend is dealing ONLY with SALVATION. Ask her if she has gone to Jesus FOR LIFE? Show her John 4:10 and 5:40. If she says yes, ask how. Since they can NOT pray TO Jesus and would NEVER TRUST him alone for salvation, then there are problems. (If necessary show her Stephen prayed TO Jesus, Acts 7:59.) You might also point out Acts 16:30,31. Ask if Paul’s answer there is the typical way a JW would respond to that question. Show her also 1 John 5:12,13, pointing out spiritual life is only found in JESUS. The JWs trust in their membership with the Watchtower Society for salvation!
It seems you already know about these http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovah.htm
... GOD BLESS YOU.
_______________________
(EMAIL) I appreciate your thorough and exhaustive work on the UES heresy. I realize that there are many in hell right now because they were told they were OK by some Baptist preacher while living in sin, as long as some time in the past they accepted Christ as Lord and Savior. I also find it refreshing that you look at and dissect the UES proponents arguments and refute them. I am a minister and it bothers me that many when they try to teach a particular doctrine that has been contested by an erroneous interpretation of scripture they do not even attempt to refute the erroneous interpretation! So much for the new church growth movement. I do find it troubling that you [appear to] teach that if someone commits one of the sins listed in I Cor 6 then that person will lose their soul. While I agree that a person who continues in sin, never repenting and ignores the conviction of the Holy Spirit will experience a gradual hardening of the heart - thus causing that individual to continue to ignore the Holy Spirit, thus possibly coming to the place of turning his back on Christ - thus losing his soul. I do not agree that just committing one of the sins listed in I Cor 6 will cause one to immediately fall away. If that person repents of the sin(s), throwing them self at the foot of the cross, the Lord will forgive them (I John 1). ...Forgive me if I misunderstood your commentary, but I know that King David is in glory right now, even though he committed a I Cor 6 sin and worse! Of course I have not read all that you wrote on the UES heresy, but in what I did read it seems that you never mention the fact that David is in glory and how he got there - Ps 51. I will say this, most all that you wrote the Lord had revealed to me some time ago and I have preached it - it is nice to see someone else with a larger platform than I refuting that damnable false doctrine - THANKS! Waiting for your response. In Christ,
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
It is good that you know eternal security is false, but VERY BAD that you think one has to “continue” in sin that leads to death to die spiritually. That is actually a “license for immorality” too even though you reject eternal security. Because of your doctrine you think one can commit “occasional” acts of drunkenness, adultery, theft, murder, etc. and remain a “Christian.” I find this despicable and wicked. A Bible-defined Christian is a holy person, one who is following the Lord Jesus, not a drunk, liar, adulterer, etc. please read these http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/spiritualdeath.htm and http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/onesin.htm
We do believe David is now in heaven too, but that is because he repented and got forgiven of his sins of adultery, murder, etc. with the Bathsheba-Uriah scenario. Your view would say David never lost his salvation, thereby implying there are Christian adulterers and Christian murderers, which is impossible. David lost his salvation and afterwards got it back, which is possible (Luke 15:24, 32; James 5:19,20; Rom. 11:19-23).
Remember: it only took only ONE SIN for Adam and Eve to die spiritually, as warned (Gen. 2:17). It was not “continued,” “lifestyle” or “habitual” sin. Do not be deceived.
Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, “The Believer’s Conditional Security.” There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm
This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written.
... Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.
__________________
(EMAIL) I read your article on Mary with great interest. Especially the claim “the unscriptural title given to Mary as mother of God” caught my eye. Is it, indeed, unscriptural? If so, what is meant by this passage from Luke:
41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? (Luke 1:41-43)
To me, it seems that Elisabeth is indeed saying that Mary is the mother of God. And since Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost while saying this, it can hardly be claimed that she was mad or in error. I would be very grateful for a reply on this.
Blessings,
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
The problem here comes from not recognizing Jesus is both God and man. Hence, Mary was the mother of the man Jesus, but certainly not the mother of God. That is how Elizabeth meant it. It is also impossible for God to have a mother, since he is without beginning. That title given to Mary (along with many others) was/were an invention/s which none of the early Christians believed and which led to Mary worship and trusting in her for salvation.
To be saved one must REPENT (turn from sin) and TRUST IN JESUS 100%. It is a trusting-submitting and enduring faith in JESUS which is needed to get one into the kingdom of heaven. Please read over these http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/catholic.htm
... Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage.
(I used to be a Catholic and once wore a brown scapular.) GOD BLESS YOU.
_________________
(EMAIL) You are greatly confused my friend; God’s grace is much bigger than the finite bounds you choose to place Him in. Do you find yourself without true joy? Is it because you choose to cast stones against an fallible man like Charles Stanley? Are you perfect? Christ died for all sinners, even me, you, and the very imperfect Charles Stanley.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
We believe in the grace that is revealed in the New Testament, which is NOT the so-called “grace” connected with eternal security. For example, eternal security declares that “once in grace, always in grace.” Yet the Bible is clear that we can “fall from grace” (Gal. 5:2-4).
The probable reason you believe in eternal security is because you have not been reading and pondering Scripture like you should, but just listening to teachings. Stanley is a false teacher spreading a doctrine (eternal security) which has MULTITUDES in need of repentance for salvation but denying this truth. We obey God when we refute Stanley and others like him (Jude 3,4; Eph. 5:11; etc.).
We do NOT teach one has to be “perfect” to have salvation. We believe that we are saved by grace (Eph. 2:8,9) but we can fall from grace (Gal. 5:2-4). We are justified by faith (Rom. 5:1) but our faith can become shipwrecked (1 Tim. 1:19,20) and cease to exist (Lk. 8:13; Rom. 11:19-23). We are not under the law (Rom. 6:14,15) but if you live according to the sinful nature you will die (Rom. 8:13). Paul taught against legalism (Gal. 5:3,4) but he also taught that no immoral, impure or greedy person has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God (Eph. 5:5-7). We are not saved by works (Eph. 2:8,9) but to reap eternal life and not destruction you must sow to please the Spirit and not the sinful nature (Gal. 6:8,9). God is faithful to us (1 Jn. 1:9; 1 Cor. 10:13) but we must be faithful to him to the very end of our lives to escape the lake of fire or second death (Rev. 2:10,11). God surely loves us (Jn. 3:16; Mk. 10:21; Rom. 8:35-39) but those who inherit the kingdom of God love God (Jam 2:5; 1 Cor. 2:9) and to love God means to obey his commands (Jn. 14:15; 1 Jn. 5:3). We have freedom in Christ (Gal. 5:1) but this freedom is not to indulge the sinful nature (Gal. 5:13; 1 Pet 2:16).
... GOD BLESS YOU.
____________________
(EMAIL) I read your comments and open letter to David Wilkerson and was so saddened that you had taken his comments so out of context. The Pharisees also did that to Jesus\’ teachings because they searched from their own minds and not from their hearts. The natural man receives not the things from God for they are foolishness to him. I gather you are also against speaking in tongues and signs and wonders following those that believe. I read and reread those comments that u said and nowhere could I even get a hint of what u were trying to accuse him of. As a fellow workmen of Christ I stand by what David has said in the past and see no heresy or apostasy of any kind. I understood what he was saying as the Holy Spirit leads and guides us into all truth. I will be praying for you that your eyes be unveiled and your heart would receive the word as a little child so that you will not lean on your own understanding in the future.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
David Wilkerson is NOT teaching like he did 20 years ago. He has taught MANY things in recent years which show he now believes in the heresy of eternal security. Wilkerson has often exalted the “Puritans,” who are Calvinists from England. Hence, that alone shows his doctrine has changed for the worse. PLEASE send something recent from Wilkerson which is clearly against eternal security. You will NOT find anything! We have NOT taken his statements out of context. (Neither have we taken Ray Comfort’s teaching out of context. He too believes in THE HERESY.) Wilkerson also says he is NOT a prophet, but continues to come out with “prophecies.” That too shows there is something wrong. PLEASE read the New Testament for yourself and let that be your guide.
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm
GOD BLESS YOU. Heb. 3:14.
__________________
(EMAIL) My name is ____ and I\’m searching for an evangelical church in my area where healing and expelling of bad energy is done. I live in _________ in a town called ____. We are within driving distance of ___________ and ____________. Please let me know. I feel that my husband could really benefit from it. Thank you
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
We are in a worldwide DEEP DARK APOSTASY. The so-called churches are filled with sin and false doctrine like eternal security. Sorry we can’t help with a church recommendation in your area.
When one studies through the New Testament he never reads of “expelling of bad energy.” That sounds like “New Age” more than Christian and therefore is probably connected with witchcraft and Hinduism!
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm
GOD BLESS YOU. Remember 2 Tim. 3:16,17.
_______________
(EMAIL) I feel bad for ya Dan and your hate of eternal security. It disgusts you so much that you have to put up several internet sites, books and challenges against it? It appears that your consumed by it.
I honestly pray that someday you will allow the Holy Spirit to teach you what eternal security is. Only then will your soul have the understanding, peace and security that it is looking for.
The spirit was sent here to teach us the deep things of God Dan. The things that go beyond words and bring us to the super natural knowledge of eternal life.
Without the knowledge of being eternally secure once we are born again you will never have the depth nor peace that your Father wants you to have. Head knowledge will get you no where Dan... You know that.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
We are deeply concerned about all the MULTITUDES of souls going to hell because of eternal security. Many were truly saved in the past but now are spiritually dead, but still think they are on the road to heaven with a guaranteed entrance into God’s kingdom. This doctrinal HERESY has also been taught as the “gospel” itself and “grace.” That is amazing deception. We thank God that MANY have seen the dangerous errors associated with eternal security and have turned to the truth. They now KNOW they must endure to the end for salvation (Mt.10:22; Heb. 3:14; Rev. 2:10,11).
Please know that we have sweet peace and rest for our souls as we walk in Godly fear and serve the Lord. Because we speak out against various demonic teachings (eternal security, Catholicism, Mormonism, Prosperity Movement, etc.) doesn’t mean we are not Christians. All 100% of our TRUST IS IN JESUS. We have repented and continue to FOLLOW and SUBMIT to the Lord. He is our purpose to live.
Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, “The Believer’s Conditional Security.” There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm
This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written.
Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.
__________________
(EMAIL) I don’t know if you have ever addressed this on your web site or in any of your books. I have been a person who feels the same way about scripture that you do. I was meditating on the Word one night and the Lord put the \“nail in the coffin\” on all this for me. We understand that a Christian marriage between a man and a woman is the reflection of a relationship that we should have with the Lord. What was the one concession that Jesus gave for divorce? A CONTINUAL act of unfaithfulness. Since marriage is a reflection of our relationship with the Lord, then we have to understand that the concession for God being able to \“divorce\” us is a continual act of unfaithfulness, thus showing it is possible.
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
It is GREAT to read that you are aware that eternal security is false. You are at a MAJOR ADVANTAGE with this knowledge. In our opinion, there are many irrefutable arguments which destroy the myth of eternal security.
We also are not sure that adultery is a legitimate cause for divorce. Other Scriptures show one is married until the death of the spouse (Rom. 7:2,3; 1 Cor. 7:39). We do KNOW there are many who are NOT really married in God’s eyes and therefore are in ADULTERY over this and on the road to hell. MANY preachers won’t teach this way because they are trying to preserve their church/ministry AND they themselves are divorced and remarried!!!!
We are in a DEEP DARK APOSTASY.
Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, “The Believer’s Conditional Security.” There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm
This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written.
... Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU. Heb. 3:14.
_____________
(EMAIL) So, according to your open letter to David Wilkerson, YOU are unsure of your salvation?
(RESPONSE) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
To think you will definitely enter the kingdom of God after death because you were once saved is NOT Biblical. The ONLY salvation assurance there is, is for the PRESENT TENSE follower of Jesus.
... Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.