EO Responds To
Emails 12-28-08
(EMAIL) I always wondered why new bible version christians were seven fold the children of hell as the unsaved were. Gail’s research helped explain why. All of your so-called critiques smack of Jesuitism.
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
You have offered no evidence for your wild and bizarre name calling and labels, but you did indict yourself as believing all who are not KJV onlyites will be damned to hell. Shocking and sad, especially for you. This shows you believe that reading and using the KJV is part of the salvation plan. Since that is obviously false and Gal. 1:8,9 declares all who preach a false gospel will be damned, then you must REPENT of this nonsense or you will be lost.
Riplinger was/is no scholar and her material is useful only for kindling.
GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) I think it’s wrong for men of God to throw stones at each other. It reminds me of dirty politics.
I don’t think any one ministry has it all right. However it is not until we get to heaven, (if it’s possible to lead any one there anymore), that we will know all things.
...There are other challenges one faces in life. How about the mentally ill or mentally retarded. How about when you don’t fully understand the bible? If it were not for God’s grace even you who kill your brothers with your words would not enter the kingdom either. Jesus himself said, if you slander your brother it is murder.
I think your points could stand on it’s own merit backed up by bible scriptures but by pointing a critical finger will bring 3 pointing right back at you.
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
The reason you have come to the conclusions cited in your email is because you are not acquainted with the Bible. Christians are in a holy fight. That fight is for God’s truth, in part. With false and dangerous teaching abounding it is a blessing to know who is teaching wrongly. Christians are commanded to contend for the faith against grace changers (Jude 3,4) and expose the unfruitful deeds of darkness (Eph. 5:11). It is best to follow Paul’s example and name false teachers (2 Tim. 2:17,18).
GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) As our final communication I want to send you my appreciation for your concern for my eternal salvation. I say this in the most sincere way possible, and may you continue your work in the spirit of true fraternal Charity. ...You mentioned the Salve Regina, prayer of inestimable antiquity, which Christians for millenia have prayed for heavenly comfort... I mention it, only because it was mentioned in your last letter:
"Hail, holy queen, [hail], Mother of Mercy, [mother of] our Life, [mother of] our Sweetness, [mother of] our Hope... turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy towards us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus... pray for us oh holy mother of god, that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ."
...It always surprises me that contemporary Protestants can claim to love the Lord, while throwing out His friends, and eschewing Christ’s most treasured creature, His own mother... it is very sad indeed.
...Clearly, however, it is my belief that if you saw the Church for what she truly is, you too, as in my own conversion, would gladly embrace She who alone has received from our Blessed Lord the Promise of His guardianship, and Who alone is not only His Mystical Body, but is the true Ship of Salvation,....
Please pray for me, and let us all pray for each other. It was, in fact, a pleasure to be in touch with you. All my best, and I bid you well. Respectfully and sincerely yours,
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
As a former Catholic what I righteously “hate” about the Catholic church is based on fact, not merely what I think. We were misled by Catholic teachers about infant baptism being “born again” (or so we were told). We were wrongly taught about the papacy, mass, eucharist, Purgatory, Penance, praying for the dead, lighting candles, etc. What we were taught about Mary was/is very different from the real Mary of the Bible. How you suggested the Hail Holy Queen prayer to be understood is a gross distortion and misrepresentation of your own doctrine. You wrote this:
Hail, holy queen, [hail], Mother of Mercy, [mother of] our Life, [mother of] our Sweetness, [mother of] our Hope ... turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy towards us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus ... pray for us oh holy mother of god, that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
By inserting those brackets and adding words you have tried to shift the “Life, Sweetness and Hope” part away from the Catholic Mary. Hopefully you did that innocently and ignorantly and were not trying to intentionally deceive. Regardless, various popes as well as the Catholic doctor and “saint” Alphonsus Liguori taught those words refer to Mary, who they trusted in for their salvation. Please do not try to mislead people about what your own religious system believes. Our book, “Is This The Mary Of The Bible?” would be a good one for you to read. Your soul is in the greatest danger, that is, hell’s fire.
GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) I was talking to pastor and I told him that I dont believe in eternal security. He mailed me this: “If it is possible to lose your salvation, then what must you do in order to keep it?” I’ve asked this question many times of those who deny eternal security and have received different responses. But they all, essentially, can be categorized into two areas: “Remain faithful,” and “Be obedient.” Whichever position is taken, both are dependent upon man’s faithfulness and ability.
Now, I am trying to be careful here in drawing conclusions because I do not want to be mistaken in how I represent the “other” side. But I cannot help but wonder that if our salvation depends upon us remaining faithful and or being obedient, then are we not keeping our salvation by being good? That’s right, by being good and risking works righteousness?
...For me, this is dangerously close to “works righteousness”. Dan How do I respond to this? Thanks
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
If what you have concluded was true, then the Lord Jesus and his Apostles taught a work’s righteousness because they taught people to “hold on,” “remain faithful,” “continue,” “endure,” “keep yourself,” etc. You need to interpret Scripture with Scripture and let the Spirit of God show you what needs to be done to stay saved. Go by the Bible and you can’t be wrong!
Remember also a saving faith has good works with it (James 2) and to believe on Jesus is the same as OBEYING him (John 3:36; etc.). The eternal security teachers are constantly trying to convince Christians they can be wicked, sinful, negligent, unfruitful, unbelieving, etc. and remain saved. That has the fingerprints of the devil all over it. In other words, that is exactly what the devil wants Christians to think. To get into God’s kingdom we will have to exert “every effort,” according to the Lord Jesus (Luke 13:23,24). See also Heb. 12:14 and 2 Peter 3:14.
You need to read our books: “The Believer’s Conditional Security” and “The Myth of Eternal Security.” GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) This is how it (Luke 9:23) was explained to me.
Jesus is speaking here and saying, if any man follows me, let him deny himself. Look at the words of Jesus. Who is denying? The believer, of course. What is the believer denying? Himself. What is meant by himself. His own personal belief in what he himself might be able to do, his own pride, his advancement in life by his own accomplishments. Finally, Jesus says to take you your cross and follow me.
Jesus is saying, do not have faith in yourself, but have complete faith in what Jesus has already done for us. By taking up your daily cross is believing that on an everyday basis you trust Jesus Christ to take care of you and that your salvation, described as sanctification, is secure and maintained by Jesus Christ by our believing that it is.
I have always had a bit of a different take on this verse. I have always believed that denying your self also meant denying worldly lusts and the such. I always thought salvation was conditional. Some teachers seem to think that salvation is an open invitation to sin without consequences. Can you shed some light on the this verse. Is this spelled out elsewhere in the bible? Sincerely
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
It is apparent that a HERETIC of the eternal security flavor gave you that poisoned interpretation of Luke 9:23. You wrote:
your salvation, described as sanctification, is secure and maintained by Jesus Christ by our believing that it is.
That has “doctrine of demons” written all over it. It is saying one has salvation maintained by the Lord just because he believes the Lord is maintaining it. If that was true then WHY did the Lord Jesus say this:
I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. (Rev 3:11)
It was up to those Christians to “hold on.” The same is true here:
But Christ is faithful as a son over God’s house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast. (Heb 3:6)
Only hold on to what you have until I come. (Rev 2:25)
Many other Scriptures show the same type of truth about a Christian’s responsibility.
For your own sake (not ours) stop believing in the heresy of eternal security and turn from your wickedness. Repent.
GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) dear dan i believe that u and your website is truely blessed by God it wasnt an accident that I came across your website. because I had asked God for a blessing that I may find information that I knew that I can depend on. and your website was it. I know now that I am ready to go and serve God and the lord Jesus. Unfortunatly the churches in my area are Roman Catholic, Baptist, and jahova witness this makes it difficult for me to make a decision to where to server the lord. can you help me find a church in my area that serves the lord 100 percent. I live in ___________ and none of the 3 I\’ve mentioned intrest me. I thank you for all the information that you have provided in your website. I look forward to purchasing all of your books. thank you and may God bless you in everything that you do.
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
Thank you for the kind words. We are glad you found us too.
Please be aware of reality regarding the DARK spiritual hour we are in now. The so-called churches are filled with false doctrine and sin. The vast majority of spiritual leaders are more interested in personal gain than souls and pleasing God. Consequently, you might NEVER be able to find a church that is like the New Testament church was.
The heart’s cry of a Christian is to find a good congregation, but that won’t be easy in any part of the world, even in foreign countries. You are going to have to learn to feed and guard yourself spiritually, especially with all the deadly teachings on radio and TV. Have you read this http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/newconverts.htm
Finally, we will send you free materials when you order.
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GOD BLESS YOU. Heb. 3:14.
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(EMAIL) Thank you for teaching against this false doctrine that does so much damage, that only eternity will reveal how devastating! I would like to use your material, but was wondering if i could use the King James Version in place of what you have in your material?I would only be changing that. Thank you, hope to hear from you soon.
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
Thanks for the compliment. You are right about eternal security doing much harm. WHY would you want to change the verses to KJV?
Have you gotten our books? Do you know about the free tracts you can print from your own computer? http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/printfreetracts.htm Some of these are directly for eternal security proponents.
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm
GOD BLESS YOU. Heb. 3:14.
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(EMAIL) I read some of your stuff and some of it I do agree with BUT although you claim to be a Christian you are so far from knowing God true character that at this point in time of your life I don’t see any hope for you and for those whom you are deceiving.
If you knew Jesus Christ you would know God the father. I see that you have rejected the commandments of God, the Sabbath day; and you believe that God kills. This is positive proof you don’t know God at all. Jesus warned us about people like you who claim to be Christian “and hereby WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. HE THAT SAYS, I KNOW HIM, AND KEEPTETH NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, IS A LIAR AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM” 1 John 2:3, 4.
YOU ARE AN ANTICHRIST.
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
Unfortunately, it seems that you are a Saturday Sabbatarian who thinks all others will be damned. Please read this http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/sabbath.htm
If you have read through the Bible it should be clear that God does KILL people at times. The Great Flood alone is enough proof. Here is a related article http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/killergod.htm
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GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) I thoroughly enjoyed reading your letter to Mr. Ankerberg, and wanted to know if he’d changed his position on the ‘Once Saved, Always Saved’ theory (which I’ve always heard a few others say as well)? I’ve heard many Pastors (my included) tell their congregations, some Christians included?, that if they didn’t get their acts together and truly repent of their sins, and live the lives that God has called them to live, they’d be on their way to hell. Is this the same thing that you mention in your book?
...Thanks very much for a well put together letter, which should read in all churches as a wake up call. Hopefully I’m be able to purchase the book “The Believer’s Conditional Security” very soon. Take care and God bless.
P.S. If a Christian who’s fallen away from God, re-dedicates their life to the Lord, asks His forgiveness and repents of their sins, do you think that if they died they'd go to be with the Lord, or would they still be lost for eternity? Thanks for your response.
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
Ankerberg, Stanley and many others teach the HERESY of eternal security (also known as “once saved always saved”). The best way to define this doctrine is “salvation security in wickedness.” The VAST majority of congregations teach this poison.
You asked about our book. We have two books which expose and refute eternal security. They deal with various aspects of salvation and how to stay saved, especially the 801 page book. We will include free materials with your order.
If a Christian turns away from God and later repents, he can get saved again. We have the Prodigal teaching to prove this. Please read these http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/prodigal.htm
and http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/backslider.htm
Please consider signing up for our weekly email teachings, updates, etc. If interested, you can do that here http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/contact.htm
GOD BLESS YOU.
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(EMAIL) I’m confused about your eternal security teaching – how can you lose eternal life? I thought that, “He that heareth my (Jesus’) word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is (present tense) passed from death unto life.” (John 5:24)
(REPLY) Greetings in Jesus’ name.
The Bible teaches as long as we have Jesus we have eternal life (1 John 5:12), but that can change by disowning him (Mt. 10:33) or by not keeping to certain sound doctrine (1 John 2:24-26). We believe that we are saved by grace (Eph. 2:8,9) but we can fall from grace (Gal. 5:2-4). We are justified by faith (Rom. 5:1) but our faith can become shipwrecked (1 Tim. 1:19,20) and cease to exist (Lk. 8:13; Rom. 11:19-23). We are not under the law (Rom. 6:14,15) but if you live according to the sinful nature you will die (Rom. 8:13). Paul taught against legalism (Gal. 5:3,4) but he also taught that no immoral, impure or greedy person has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God (Eph. 5:5-7). We are not saved by works (Eph. 2:8,9) but to reap eternal life and not destruction you must sow to please the Spirit and not the sinful nature (Gal. 6:8,9). God is faithful to us (1 Jn. 1:9; 1 Cor. 10:13) but we must be faithful to him to the very end of our lives to escape the lake of fire or second death (Rev. 2:10,11). God surely loves us (Jn. 3:16; Mk. 10:21; Rom. 8:35-39) but those who inherit the kingdom of God love God (Jam 2:5; 1 Cor. 2:9) and to love God means to obey his commands (Jn. 14:15; 1 Jn. 5:3). We have freedom in Christ (Gal. 5:1) but this freedom is not to indulge the sinful nature (Gal. 5:13; 1 Pet 2:16).
Did you know that the word “believe” in John 5:24 is a CONTINUOUS tense? Did you know it is possible to stop believing (Lk. 8:13; 1 Tim. 1:19,20; 2 Tim. 2:18; Rom. 11:19-23)? If one stops believing he is back on the road to hell.
Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, “The Believer’s Conditional Security.” There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/whatsnew.htm
This book is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written.
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Remember Gal. 6:8,9 is a SALVATION passage not a rewards passage. GOD BLESS YOU.
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