Fruit or Fire (pdf)
Is Grace Unmerited Favor? True Biblical Grace Vs False Grace
What do the true grace teachers say?
Which version of the gospel will you believe?
QUESTION: Does true grace teaching allow the sexually immoral in heaven?
Perseverance of the Saints (Eternal Security) Teachers Say "Yes"
"And as Paul said, 'All things are permissible, but not all things are profitable.' SO IS COMMITTING FORNICATION PERMISSIBLE? YES. Is it profitable? No, it isn't" [emphasis ours].(1)
"It is NOT lying, cheating, stealing, RAPING, murdering, or BEING UNFAITHFUL that sends people to hell" [emphasis ours].(2)
"Neither do we become unsaved by acting unsaved."(3)
"Yes, someone says, but can't Christians put themselves outside God's grace? What about those who commit ABOMINABLE SINS? Don't they nullify the work of redemption in themselves? Don't they forfeit the love of God? CERTAINLY NOT .... it's preposterous to think that we can forfeit it [salvation] BY ANYTHING WE DO" [emphasis ours].(4)
John MacArthur's Ministry:
"Secondly, you asked about occasional SEXUAL SIN or getting drunk. Again, THESE SINS CANNOT CAUSE A TRUE BELIEVER TO LOSE HIS SALVATION" [emphasis ours].(5)
"But CHRISTIANS may still lose rewards in heaven. Indeed, we can only wonder what some Christians will feel like and experience on that day when they lose those heavenly rewards because of the spiritually numbing and other consequences of FORNICATION or ADULTERY while on earth? It will certainly be an infinitely poor exchange -- losing eternal rewards in heaven for a few fleeting moments of sexual pleasure on earth" [emphasis ours].(6)
"Salvation is the full pardon by grace from the penalty of all sin, past, present or future ...."(7)
John R. Rice:
"David committed sins of murder and ADULTERY. We must condemn his sins. They were bad. But David's sins were under the blood of Christ, and in the fifty-first Psalm, the prayer of David shows that HE HAD NOT LOST HIS SALVATION, BUT THE JOY OF SALVATION" [emphasis ours].(8)
Erwin W. Lutzer:
"Recently I spoke to a HOMOSEXUAL who believes he accepted Christ at the age of twenty, only to plunge into a life of WANTON IMMORALITY .... Whether or not he was a child of God during those days of heedless carnality (who of us knows for sure?), he lost fellowship with his Father" [emphasis ours].(9)
"... sin does not cause us to lose our salvation."(10)
"The eternal security of the believer arises out of the necessity and nature of the atonement .... That the saints do not ultimately fall away from grace or into sin does not mean that Christians don't fall into sin many times in their lifetime. Abraham lied, David committed ADULTERY and MURDER, and Peter denied the Lord!" [emphasis ours].(11)
- Bob George, "People to People" Radio Talk Show, 11/16/93.
- Charles Stanley, Eternal Security: Can You Be Sure?, Oliver-Nelson Books, 1990, p. 70. [Though not quoted above, Joseph Prince videos show he teaches as bad as Charles Stanley!]
- Ibid., p. 71.
- John MacArthur, Jr., The Love of God, Word Publishing, 1996, p. 159.
- Personal letter dated 1/10/94 sent by Bryan Johnson, a counselor from John MacArthur's ministry.
- The Ankerberg Theological Research Institute, News Magazine (Vol. 2, No. 6), June 1995, p. 4.
- Dave Hunt, CIB Bulletin, Christian Information Bureau, June 1989, Vol. 5, No. 6, p. 1.
- John R. Rice, Can a Saved Person Ever Be Lost?, Sword of the Lord Publishers, 1943, p. 16.
- Erwin W. Lutzer, How You Can Be Sure That You Will Spend Eternity With God, Moody Press, 1996, pp. 131,132.
- Charles Ryrie, So Great Salvation, Victor Books, 1989, p. 143.
- Robert Morey, The Saving Work of Christ: Studies in the Atonement, Grace Abounding Ministries, Inc., 1980, pp. 235, 236.
But True Grace Teachers Say "No" To The Aforementioned Question
THE LORD JESUS HIMSELF:
"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, SEXUAL IMMORALITY, theft, murder, ADULTERY, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. ALL THESE EVILS COME FROM INSIDE AND MAKE A MAN 'UNCLEAN' " (Mk. 7:21-23).
THE APOSTLE PAUL:
"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Cor. 6:9,10, NASB).
"The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: SEXUAL IMMORALITY, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I WARN YOU, AS I DID BEFORE, THAT THOSE WHO LIVE LIKE THIS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD" (Gal. 5:19-21).
"For OF THIS YOU CAN BE SURE: NO IMMORAL, impure or greedy person -- such a man is an idolater -- HAS ANY INHERITANCE IN THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST AND OF GOD. LET NO ONE DECEIVE YOU WITH EMPTY WORDS, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them" (Eph 5:5-7).JUDE:
"In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to SEXUAL IMMORALITY and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of ETERNAL FIRE" (Jude 7).
THE SOVEREIGN GOD SEATED ON HIS THRONE:
"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the SEXUALLY IMMORAL, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars -- THEIR PLACE WILL BE IN THE FIERY LAKE OF BURNING SULFUR. This is the second death" (Rev. 21:8).
Which version of the gospel of God's grace will you believe?
Jesus said, "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this ADULTEROUS AND SINFUL GENERATION, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels" (Mk. 8:38). Here and elsewhere, the Lord described this age, in which we are now living, as an "ADULTEROUS" one! Paul said the same with the following, "I have written you in my letter not to associate with SEXUALLY IMMORAL people -- not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. IN THAT CASE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE THIS WORLD" (1 Cor. 5:9,10). It, therefore, stands to reason that the sin of sexual immorality would be rampant, as one can easily observe in the natural.
The Apostle Paul accurately predicted, "The time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to MYTHS" (2 Tim. 4:3,4). It is understood, the "desires" which some will try to "suit" are SINFUL! Could it be that doctrinal mythology, such as eternal security (or "perseverance of the saints"), is the result of people with "itching ears" turning to "a great number of teachers" who will say what itching ears with sinful desires want to hear?
Read again what REAL GRACE TEACHING declares about the sexually immoral contrasted to the above quotes made by the eternal security teachers of our day. Which will you reject as error? The seriousness of sexual immorality, as taught by unconditional eternal security teachers, is as far from the truth as the lake of fire is from the kingdom of heaven! Please ponder this statement and the consequences of being wrong.
The popular unconditional eternal security message of our day is really a DISTORTED GRACE MESSAGE taught under the finished work of Christ. Furthermore, this myth of once saved always saved generates a dangerous, false security among its adherents as it attempts to explain away the most serious warnings found in Scripture (Gal. 5:19-21; Rev. 22:18,19), sets one up for a fall (1 Cor. 10:12) and opens the same up for the arrogance mentioned in Rom. 11:20.
Our book, The Believer's Conditional Security, names, quotes and refutes the popular eternal security teachers of our day. It was written from the point of view that we are SAVED BY GRACE, but that it is possible for a Christian to lose his inheritance of the kingdom of God (Gal. 5:21), be disowned by Christ (Matt. 10:33), have his share in the tree of life and New Jerusalem taken away (Rev. 22:19), die if we choose to live according to the sinful nature (Rom. 8:13) and as the Prodigal Son did, become dead and lost (Lk. 15:24). It also offers important safeguards that will help assure that you and/or your loved ones will not be like the 5 foolish virgins who were not ready to meet Jesus when He arrived and heard him say, "I don't know you" (Matt. 25:1-13)!
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