Yes, someone says, but can't Christians put themselves outside God's grace?
What about those who commit abominable sins? Don't they nullify the work of redemption in themselves? Don't they forfeit the love of God? Certainly not ... it's preposterous to think that we can forfeit it [salvation] by anything we do. (John MacArthur, Jr., The Love of God, Word Publishing, 1996, p. 159, emphasis mine)
Believers will often fall into sin, but their sin is not more powerful than God's grace. (John MacArthur, Jr., Saved Without A Doubt, Chariot Victor Publishing, 1982, p. 45, emphasis mine)
Some who used to have those patterns of sinful life were falling into those old sins again, and needed reminding that if they went all the way back to live as they used to they were not going to inherit eternal salvation, because it would indicate that they never were saved. (The MacArthur Study Bible, 1997, p. 1736)
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor. 6:9-11, NASB)The Sovereign God who perfectly understands grace disagrees with John MacArthur. Rev. 21:8 is a clear passage which God spoke from His throne about who will NOT enter His kingdom. The Apostle Paul, the real grace teacher, gives us other Holy Spirit inspired lists in 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Eph. 5:5-7; Gal. 5:19-21; etc. Who will YOU believe? Also, please note: John MacArthur, known for "Lordship" theology, teaches the same as Charles Stanley and Charles Ryrie on the believer's security!
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars -- their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death (Rev. 21:8).Click the following link to hear John MacArthur himself place a noose around his neck revealing the license to sin he argues for! Click here:
For of this you can be SURE: No immoral, impure or greedy person -- such a man is an idolater -- has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient (Eph. 5:5,6).
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God (Gal. 5:19-21).
[Announcer] You've probably witnessed the devastating effect of sin in the life of someone close to you. Maybe it's an adulterous husband who's refused to forsake his sin; maybe a close friend enslaved to habitual sin, or even a church leader leading his congregation astray with false teaching.
Sin robs, it enslaves, it deceives, and according to 1 John 5:16, there is a sin leading to death. A listener from New York asks about the sin leading to death and that passage. Does that apply to a believer or an unbeliever? Is that physical death or spiritual death? John?
[John MacArthur] As a pastor for many, many years in a church, I've seen it all - the devastating, horrendous destruction done by adultery, habitual sin, yes, false teaching. I've seen the robbery, the enslavement, the deception of sin, all of that. And then to the question, 1 John 5:16, there is a sin leading to death. It isn't a specific sin.
In reality, it is whatever sin leads to death and there is no specific sin that could actually cause God himself, the Lord, to take the life of a believer, but that's what it's talking about. That passage refers to believers, and it refers to physical death not spiritual death, and what it says is, that a believer can commit a sin which will cause the Lord to just take him to heaven. He doesn't go to hell, he goes to heaven.
It's the same thing in 1 Corinthians where some were desecrating the Lord's table. Paul said, some of you sleep, some in the congregation have died because of that. It's any sin that the Lord deems to be serious to the point where you're better off removed from the church because of your influence.
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Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. (Gal 6:7-9)John MacArthur's doctrine is an ungodly attempt to mock God, according to God's word. That passage is clear and completely devastating to Reformed Theology. When a Christian dies, it is only physical death - not spiritual death. WHY does he teach that? He is forced to say that because once saved always saved doesn't allow for a believer to die spiritually, even though it is a clear basic teaching all through the bible:
If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, he will die for it. (Ezek 33:18)
For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live, (Rom 8:13)
but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death. Don't be deceived, my dear brothers. (James 1:1416)MY QUESTION TO John MacArthur: How did King David die when he turned to evil? John MacArthur gives Q and A, but it is too obvious that King David was in vile wickedness with adultery and murder, yet he didn't die physically! David died spiritually.
John MacArthur speaks of the enslavement and the deception of sin, but that is allowed with his image of a Christian and Christianity itself! He believes Christians can be slaves to sins, which is highly antithetical and impossible to the holy liberating influence of Jesus' blood.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. (Rom 6:22)John MacArthur magnified that such a person struck dead by God doesn't go to hell, he goes to heaven. That means John MacArthur teaches just like all once saved always saved teachers! He is NOT teaching holiness. He is just another scripture distorter and dangerous teacher. John MacArthur really believes there are Christian adulterers and Christian doctrinal heretics, as he said in his answer, but that is not all. John MacArthur also must believe there are Christian murderers, Christian idolaters, Christian Hindus, Christian witches, etc. That is the essence of his doctrine for all the backsliders!
John MacArthur said the habitual adulterer or doctrinal heretic is better off removed from the church because of his influence. He also thinks such a person is taken to heaven though he doesn't repent! Therefore, John MacArthur thinks an ungodly habitual sinner's influence (behavioral or beliefs) is too bad for Christians this side of the grave, but okay for God's pure heaven!
The sin unto death version taught by any once saved always saved teacher, Calvinist or not, is always a license to sin and most explicitly reveals it as such here.
Now, there is only one other category. Some of you are saying, "I have a problem. I fouled up my marriage when I was a Christian and got a divorce that wasn't legitimate. Furthermore, I am an adulterer (or an adulteress), because I remarried when I had no grounds. What is my status?" Well, you're a sinner - welcome to the club. If you've already violated God's laws as a Christian and you were illegitimately divorced and remarried (in other words, you're in a union that the Bible defines as an adulterous union), you have only one recourse - to confess the sin, tell God the sorrow of your heart, and stay in that same union ... (John MacArthur, Jr., On Divorce, Moody Press Edition, 1985, Chicago, p. 98, emphasis mine)That is clear proof that John MacArthur is saying they would be lifestyle practicing adulterers, which he denies is possible at other times. Furthermore, he doesn't say such lifestyle practicing adulterous people were false converts, but consoles them by welcoming them into the club of sinners! Moreover, he tells such adulterers to just tell God they are sorry and confess their adultery! According to John MacArthur, no turning away from their adultery (repentance) is needed for their forgiveness. John MacArthur's teaching, therefore, is a poison-filled wicked abomination. BTW, the mere fact that John MacArthur denies King David lost his salvation when in adultery and murder should be enough to prove John MacArthur has a skewed understanding of Scripture.
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. (Mat 6:14,15)That is clear and enough to disprove John MacArthur, but there is more. Another passage shows the end result of the unforgiving servant who had received mercy (forgiveness), but wouldn't show mercy to another, is in a torturous state in jail, from which he couldn't get free:
"Shouldn't you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?" In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed. "This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart." (Mat 18:33-35)The unforgiving recipient of mercy in the past is made responsible for his [sin] debt once again, which he could never pay from jail where he would be tortured! There was no automatic protected forgiveness for him, according to the Lord Jesus! John MacArthur is shown to be dangerously wrong again!
What about the forever righteous standing of eternal security that John MacArthur speaks of? Is that another myth too? When a person repents and commits himself to follow and obey the Lord Jesus, he is righteous in God's sight, but that righteous standing can change. It is not unconditional and forever, if that Christian backslides. Ponder this carefully:
If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit," and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud." (2 Pet 2:20-22)
Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil .... (1 John 3:7,8)
I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. (Rom 6:19)
Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey--whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? (Rom 6:16)Without question, the righteous can become UNrighteous again by committing the sins in this list:
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor. 6:9-11, NASB)Don't allow John MacArthur to deceive you about righteousness or anything else related to once saved always saved. This is VITAL truth for your salvation.
WARNING! Dear reader, for your soul's sake avoid John MacArthur's Calvinistic version of saving faith. It is NOT the message of the Bible! John MacArthur needs to take to heart the compelling evidence found in The Believer's Conditional Security, repent of his dangerous false teachings, and openly renounce his Calvinistic doctrines! Eternal Security is not true. Avoid John MacArthur for your own good.