The Ugly Truth About The
Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (CARM)!
The so-called Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (CARM) led by Matt Slick of carm.org wins our FALSE teachers Award for teaching and trying to defend the heresy of eternal security. How sad and misleading it is to read on that web site:What is the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (CARM)? CARM is a 501(c)3 nonprofit organization whose purpose is to equip Christians and refute error. (Bold emphasis mine)
CARM's License To Sin and Scripture Twisting
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Perhaps one of the most loathsome things about most of the eternal security teachers is they often try to hide what they really believe. This is the case here, at least sometimes. Matt Slick of CARM teaches a license for immorality but periodically tries to hide it. In other words, he isn't always open and honest about his own theology. But how could Matt Slick do better than teach a license for immorality since he is a Calvinist and therefore believes in the perseverance of the saints (eternal security) and the other loathsome points of Calvinism. In fact, CARM aligns itself with a theology founded by John Calvin, who believed in infant baptism! In a past email exchange with CARM Matt Slick's license for sin came out. I wrote to Matt Slick the following about King David when in his sins of adultery and murder. Here is one of my emails to him:
Matthew, you never responded to my question regarding David remaining saved in his sins of adultery and murder or not! I wonder why? Could it be that you are trying to perpetuate the false image that Calvinism is associated with holiness and that Calvinism is Scripturally sound? Matt Slick, let's debate eternal security.
Contending For The Faith Against False Teachers Including Calvinists, Dan
Matt Slick's (CARM's) reply to that was:I believe what Jesus said in John 10:27-28 that those who have eternal life will never perish. I gather that you don't believe Jesus. Matt Slick
Matt Slick (CARM) False Gospel Exposed and RefutedMatt Slick (CARM) is implying:
that John 10:27,28 states King David remained saved while in adultery and murder! That is a clear MISUSE of Scripture! John 10:27-28 does NOT promise that backsliders like King David who turn to adultery and murder will never perish! Only those who continue to follow Jesus are referred to in John 10:27-29. Moreover, his answer implies the license for immorality CARM, and all other such Calvinistic ministries, often try to hide. [Again, John 10:27,28 only applies to those described in v.27, that is, the continuous tense follower of Jesus. If one turns to adultery and murder, which a person who once had saving faith can do (as shown by King David), then such a person is no longer following Jesus and that blessed promise in v. 28 no longer applies. In contrast, CARM actually thinks it does! Please do NOT let CARM deceive you!]
that there are Christian adulterers and Christian murderers. The only adulterers and murderers in the Bible are always unsaved and therefore on the road to hell in desperate need of repentance for salvation. Eternal security teachers, like CARM, would want us to dangerously believe that some adulterers and/or murderers are actually saved because they once were regenerated. By teaching that way CARM is actually saying his gospel is only a form of godliness, without power to live above sin. Such people also tend to declare their message to be associated with the real gospel, grace, foundational to Christianity, etc. That makes the once saved always saved message another gospel and the eternal security teachers very dangerous people. Matt Slick of CARM is only one of many such groups and people.
Matt Slick and CARM Fail The Acid Test Questionby his ignoring my challenge to debate eternal security he is saying indirectly that he is not confident with his own theological position. He likes to teach it dogmatically to new converts and the like, but doesn't want to debate someone like me acquainted with this issue. Without a doubt, Matt Slick (just like Mr. James White of alpha and omega ministries) would debate eternal security with me in a flash if he (they) thought he (they) could win. Remember this when either of them (Matt Slick or James White), or any other Calvinists, authoritatively teach this license for immorality commonly known as eternal security.
Matt Slick, if you change your mind, we could still easily text debate eternal security and place it on each other's web sites for visitors to read. This would equip Christians and refute error in the truest sense, which CARM is supposed to be doing! Why a text debate? Because a text debate will be done in an honest and fair fashion. I've had debates with eternal security teachers, some very well-known, and things were not always done fairly and unbiasedly. That would never occur with a text debate. Furthermore, the debate points could be much more easily analyzed by the readers and re-examined many times. However, IF there is no other way for the sake of SOULS, I will debate Matt Slick on youtube, though youtube is very favorable to Matt Slick of CARM and suppresses me.
CARM's alleged purpose of equip[ping] Christians and refut[ing] error is nothing but an empty and misleading false claim. If you are a Christian, please avoid CARM's web site and all others that teach eternal security. It will be to your own risk and peril to neglect this warning about CARM. Remember what Paul wrote:
CARM's False Claim!For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person -- such a man is an idolater -- has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them (Eph 5:5-7).
Matt Slick, under your question found on CARM, "What do I do if I have committed sexual sin?" you wrote the following. [All emphasis is my own.]:
More CARM PoisonChristians are not exempt from sexual sin. If you are such a person who has fallen into fornication, adultery, pornography, homosexuality, lesbianism, bestiality, or any other sexual deviation, then you need to stop .... If you are a Christian involved in sexual sin then you know that the Holy Spirit has been convicting you. If you feel no conviction then you are either not really saved or are so hardened by the sin you've been committing that you are close to God taking your life. This is the case in 1 Cor. 5:5 where a man was having sex with his father's wife and he would not repent. Paul said, "I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus." Rest assured that God takes this seriously. He will take your life to essentially save your soul. This is a loving move on God's part.
CARM would have us think there are Christian adulterers, Christian fornicators, etc. CARM refers to 1 Cor. 5:5 which has nothing to do with teaching such immoral people are Christian. The unnamed man in 1 Cor. 5 is called wicked in v. 13, and therefore, can not be a Christian. To teach he was a Christian while in sexual immorality is to declare exactly what the devil (and Calvinists) would like us to think. Moreover, 1 Cor. 5:1 states the 1 Cor. 5:5 man was sexually immoral in a way in which even pagans were not, yet CARM wants us to believe that man was a Christian bound for heaven! That is both SHOCKING IGNORANCE and a bold display of distorting grace into a license to sin!
CARM (just like Dave Hunt) would also have us think that God, in his anger, will strike an unrepentant heinous sinner dead and take him to heaven in that unrepentant state. Somehow to CARM, this is following Jesus because we are his sheep and enduring to the end because we are truly saved! The following is quoted from CARM's page Can you lose your salvation?, a dialogue between Matt Slick and Sam:Matt Slick: Can you answer the question regarding John 10:28?
Sam: I believe we are God's sheep if we follow him.
Matt Slick: Wrong. We follow him BECAUSE we are His sheep.
Matt Slick: ...We endure because we ARE saved...
CARM must think the unnamed man of 1 Cor. 5 in sexual immorality in which even pagans didn't commit was following Jesus while in that sin. Also, if God in his anger kills such an unrepentant vile fornicator, that fornicator who died in an unrepentant state endured to the end and went to heaven! The teaching of eternal security is absurd, unscriptural, dangerously demonic and contradictory! Folks, that reflects CARM's poisonous view of grace, righteousness, salvation, the danger of sin in a Christian's life, etc. CARM will teach like that because eternal security is basic to Calvinism and Matt Slick is a die-in-the-wool Calvinist, who will not be moved by scripture or reason. His mind is made up.
Demonic Grace of CARM
CARM's grace illustration is demonic. The following is found under, Salvation is God's work:One more change. I sneak over to your house and steal your bike. You catch me. You don't send me to jail. In fact, you give me the bike plus a hundred dollars. That is grace. (Emphasis mine)CARM would dangerously have us thinking we receive grace from God by doing a wicked deed. But that is not all. In an unrepentant state we get that grace and a nice bonus too! Matt Slick, you have clearly changed grace into a license for immorality. I will fight your false version of grace (eternal security), with God's truth, as long as I live. I don't hate you, but do hate your demonic doctrine and will continue to expose and refute it.
Dear reader, to learn what true grace is ponder Titus 2:12, Rom. 5:2 and 1 Peter especially in light of 1 Peter 5:12. Also, please see chapter 10 on grace in our 801 page book, The Believer's Conditional Security: Eternal Security Refuted.
CARM Tries To DISTORT The Prodigal Son Scriptures
CARM attempts to analyze the parable of the Prodigal Son, but in doing so misquotes the Scriptures to protect eternal security and his Reformed theology. This is how CARM misstated it:"My son was dead and is alive, was lost and is found."
The important word again after the word alive is missing! It should read "alive AGAIN." That shows the prodigal son was spiritually alive, became spiritually dead and lost when in sexual sin, and when he turned from his wickedness to serve the Father (repented), he became "alive AGAIN." Jesus stated it this way:For this son of mine was dead and is ALIVE AGAIN; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate. (Luke 15:24)Later Matt Slick has the verse correctly stated:for this son of mine was dead, and has come to life again; he was lost, and has been found. And they began to be merry.The truth is, the prodigal died spiritually because of his sexual immorality and wild living. After he repented, his lost spiritual condition was reversed and he became spiritually alive again. The Lord Jesus refuted eternal security there! Please see this teaching on the prodigal son for more information. NOTE: Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (CARM) would have you believe the prodigal remained saved all during the time he was unrepentant in sexual immorality with the prostitutes! Matt Slick therefore believes there are Christians who are having sex with prostitutes! That is what he wants to convince you of by teaching eternal security and refusing to teach the prodigal son as it reads in the bible.
Dear reader, CARM is not a ministry that Evangelical Outreach can recommend since the various points of Calvinism, embraced by Matt Slick, will be laced throughout it (especially the most deadly point -- eternal security). Any teachings on grace, salvation, sin and other related subjects, will be distorted in one way or another to allow for the heresy of eternal security and Calvinism. The reader is encouraged to warn his friends about the dangerous distortions and doctrinal perversions found on CARM. ALL eternal security teachers, including Matt Slick of CARM, wants us Christians to believe there are 2 types of adulterers, 2 types of drunks, 2 types of thieves, 2 types of murderers, 2 types of witches, etc. One type was never saved and remains lost. The other type, who is acting just as VILE OR WORSE, is a Christian because of his past regeneration!
Matt Slick, my debate challenge to you on eternal security continues to stand. WHY won't you accept? You are the president of CARM.
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