That whole theological system is based on man having no free will in his salvation. Salvation, according to a Calvinist, is given only to the ones God sovereignly elects to salvation. Such people (the elect) can NOT refuse that salvation. They alone are the only ones Jesus died for. (Jesus did not die for all people, according to them.) The elect can NOT lose their salvation, regardless how vile they afterwards act. NO sin of omission or commission can possibly imperil that salvation. The examples they cite for such are David, Solomon and Peter, which means (according to Calvinism) a person with salvation (a Christian) can commit adultery and murder like David, turn his heart to idolatry like Solomon, and disown Jesus three times like Peter yet remain saved. Calvinism denies a righteous person will die spiritually (lose salvation) by turning to evil. The last point of Calvinism commonly called once saved always saved by many (or the Perseverance of the Saints by strict Calvinists) is the most DEADLY and the most tightly embraced point of Calvinism. Some even embrace eternal security, yet deny being even a one point Calvinist, thereby causing confusion. The teaching of once saved always saved (or Eternal Security) has people thinking they are irrevocably bound for heaven because of a past point of regeneration in spite of the present sins they are currently committing, even if those sins are adultery, drunkenness, theft, lying, murder, slander, idolatry, etc.
The truth is: man has free will both before and after initial Salvation. A saved person can be deceived, turn to evil and die spiritually. Hence, it is man’s responsibility (NOT God’s) under grace to hold on, keep what he has and continue in the faith following the Lord Jesus. Many have failed in that regard over the centuries and consequently got back on the road to hell. Since a major advantage for a backslider getting off the road to hell is knowing he is on the road to hell again, and this is flatly denied by once saved always saved proponents, then multitudes continue to perish because of that teaching. Calvinism needs to be refuted for the sake of SOULS.
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Recent emails received and responded to:
(EMAIL #1) As a family, we have been attending a '_____Baptist' church in _________, Germany for the past 2+ years. My husband's parents are non-believers, but I grew up in a Penticostal church and my husband started attending church with me and gave his heart to the Lord in 2007. Then we moved to Germany in 2008 and started looking for a suitable church. We came upon this Baptist church with an Afrikaans pastor (I am also Afrikaans, from South Africa. My husband is German) and loved them straight away.(RESPONSE #1) Greetings in Jesus’ name. Sorry for the distress and problems, but you are not alone! Many Christians get attacked by various dangerous false doctrines. Calvinism is only one, but it is certainly a raging issue, with the last point—once saved always saved—being the biggest issue.We had no idea what doctorine they followed as I had no idea such doctorines existed and was furthest from my mind - I was a little naive. They believed in baptising grown-ups and therefore I assumed that we believed the same thing (gospel). I had several questions and got answers regarding salvation etc., but always told my husband that the Holy Spirit warns me and that I somehow cannot fully except this teaching. I didn't really want to attend at this church, but for my husbands (penticost praise and worship and sermons were too loud in his opinion) sake went there, but never felt 'at home'. I always maintained that i will never be a Baptist and that it was too dead as they did not practice the spiritual gifts, etc. Later on it came to light that they are Calvinists. Then it started getting serious. The situation escalated to such a degree that I refused to attend church anymore (about 4 weeks now) as it feels to me like I am getting forced to decide what doctorine I will accept and that I am caught up in something I don't want to be in.
I am now in such a debate that I don't know how to get out of it. I get accused of not wanting to know the truth, not knowing scripture, that my family (mom) doesn't know scripture well enough to help me (my mom is 71 and grew up in a God-fearing home where both parents evangelised among people of colour in SA for many years and mom worked for the Lord until this very day, playing the Organ in church, etc.), that I must make very sure that I follow the right doctorine and be careful in deciding for the Armenian doctorin and not lending my ears out to the enemy proclaiming this doctorin, that i blaspheme against Godly men like John Calvyn by saying that he was a murderer (as history states - having had people killed if they didn't accept his teaching), etc.
It is like psychology being excersized on me and it makes me more and more uncomfortable. I have now written a letter to our pastor stating that I withdraw from church on severel grounds stated and that I want nothing to do with any doctorine, regardless Armenian or Calvanist, but only the Gospel. I am so afraid and don't know where to go and what church to attend anymore. I feel alone and utterly hurt and disappointed. It is terrible and now I understand why so many people do not want to attend a church anymore.
Please help me in my decision. What is right and what is wrong? Are all believes based on either Armeniasm or Calvinism as they claim and if so, which one is right? Aren't these philosophies exactly what the bible warns us about?
I hope you can help me and look forward to a positive answer in Christ Jesus. Kind regards
Everything I have observed, even in the secular world, has opposite views on almost each issue (or doctrine). Hence, until you go to the Bible directly and let that message control your life and doctrinal beliefs you will be tossed back and forth. To get established you must learn the Biblical message by quality time directly in the Scriptures.
If one is a 5 point Calvinist, his (false) god has predestined some to heaven and most to hell with NO CHOICE on man’s part! The savior in Calvinism did NOT die for all people, but only for those who will go to heaven. The Christian in Calvinism can commit adultery and murder (like David), idolatry (like Solomon) and disown Jesus (like Peter) and not die spiritually! Hence, since these are all major serious errors, NO PERSON SHOULD BE A CALVINIST! ALL 5 points are demonic with the fifth point being the most deadly.
John Calvin got his teachings from the Catholic theologian Augustine of Hippo, who wanted salvation but not without Mary. Calvin mercilessly burned Michael Servetus at the stake with green wood because of doctrinal differences (much like the Catholic church murdered non Catholics)! Calvin was a heretic, but because we are suffering under the influence of Calvinism he is exalted and described as a brilliant theologian and link from the apostle Paul to the present! Few seem to be aware of the damage he has done to multitudes and the theology he has left behind.
We believe that we are saved by grace (Eph. 2:8,9) but we can fall from grace (Gal. 5:2-4). We are justified by faith (Rom. 5:1) but our faith can become shipwrecked (1 Tim. 1:19,20) and cease to exist (Lk. 8:13; Rom. 11:19-23). We are not under the law (Rom. 6:14,15) but if you live according to the sinful nature you will die (Rom. 8:13). Paul taught against legalism (Gal. 5:3,4) but he also taught that no immoral, impure or greedy person has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God (Eph. 5:5-7). We are not saved by works (Eph. 2:8,9) but to reap eternal life and not destruction you must sow to please the Spirit and not the sinful nature (Gal. 6:8,9). God is faithful to us (1 Jn. 1:9; 1 Cor. 10:13) but we must be faithful to him to the very end of our lives to escape the lake of fire or second death (Rev. 2:10,11). God surely loves us (Jn. 3:16; Mk. 10:21; Rom. 8:35-39) but those who inherit the kingdom of God love God (Jam 2:5; 1 Cor. 2:9) and to love God means to obey his commands (Jn. 14:15; 1 Jn. 5:3). We have freedom in Christ (Gal. 5:1) but this freedom is not to indulge the sinful nature (Gal. 5:13; 1 Pet 2:16).
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(EMAIL #2) How I love your subject! Thank you very much for this insight. It just confirmed what I already believe. I have hope now and thank the Lord for people standing up for the truth like yourselves. Continue this good work in the Lord as there are many people like myself being under the attack. I believe that the message of the gospel has been made simple for all (even little children like Jesus said) to understand. God is holy and therefore we have to live holy lives and do His will. I am not a major intellectual and certainly do not want to study any man-made doctorine. I just want to read the Word and let Jesus be in control of my life and no man. Thank your for your invitation. We will certainly visit your on-line church. God bless,
(RESPONSE #2) Thanks for the encouraging words and may God help you help people in your part of the world. SOULS continue to perish. There are many enemies of grace, even some who reject once saved always saved. Hence, even though one may claim to teach holiness and flatly reject once saved always saved, he still may be teaching a license for immorality! Ask about David when in adultery and murder. If ANY person says he was still saved after his adultery and murder, that person is spreading the DEVIL’S POISON and will hurt SOULS, and maybe even in a greater way than if he taught David remained saved and also openly embraced once saved always saved. Check this out Acid Test to spot a license for immorality
God bless you. Heb. 3:14.
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